Posted by psgels on 23 May 2013 with categories: Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet

So I understand… some of the intentions behind episode five and six. Really, the logic behind the big picture is more than apparent: we needed time to show Ledo getting accustomed to this new culture he ended up at. We needed a chance for the viewers to get a good view of the Gargantia without any drama in it, until that squid came and Ledo had to stir things up again. I like the outcome, but the way in which they got there was a bit weird.

The thing is, that these episodes just weren’t interesting to watch. The creators really could have spent their time better there, instead of going on and on about the random fanservice. They could have used that time to show some geniune and everyday interactions between the characters. Instead they went with a beach episode and silly dances. Sorry, but that just feels shallow. Especially in two consecutive episodes. The creators can write more interesting episodes.

Episode seven thankfully returned to the real business, and I really like what happened. It’s a great twist that the Hideazu have pretty much already settled down on earth, they just chose not to act for now, for whatever reason. Whether they chose to coexist and have something against fancy technology, or they’re just waiting for the right opportunity still remains a question. It’s because of this that Ledo’s actions aren’t inherently wrong; he just acted really rashly.

Convenient heart attack aside, this episode was full of people clashing with each other based on a lot of different values, whether cultural or practical. On one hand there are the Hideazu who have a status as gods, then there is Ledo’s duty, that girl’s personal preference for not wanting to see the guy in a battle, the captain’s concern for the whole population of the gargantia and then there are these economists willing to take a risk for a possible treasure that will benefit the entire Gargantia in the long run. All of them clash together. That really feels like Urobuchi Gen again.
Rating: 3,5/8 (Enjoyable for episodes 5 and 6), 5.5/8 (Excellent for episode 7)

40 Responses

  1. Ender says:

    Before the ganboys of the show come to bash psgels for this post (you know they’re coming) ask yourself this: “Eeedlessly exploiting young females with provocative belly dancing and erotic, tete-a-tete, might-as-well-be lap dancing, Having voluptuous females with their assets busting out of bathing suits to ensure that a certain segment of the DVD/BD buying market lusts after those specific episodes. Just how much time did they waste on Ledo being chased about by transvestites? Was that supposed to be funny?” How do these really add any value to the story that you can’t find on some hentai site, or one of those “my sister smells like incest” type Light Novel turned into anime “masterpieces”

    • YourDream says:

      It’s complaints like this that I am unable to understand.
      The show is about a culture that lives on a fleet of ships. Swimming makes sense as a completely natural way to spend leisure time. To swim, people wear swimsuits. The fan service was tasteful, not over the top. It made sense, and wasn’t at all forced.

      Also, there is no way at all that the belly dancing may as well have been a lap dance. It’s a dance. The girls danced. There was nothing erotic about it whatsoever. Simply because they wore revealing clothing, you suddenly denounce it as the lowest of fan service. That’s ridiculous.

      As for psgel’s complaint that they should have showed more daily life activities and interactions instead, they already have. They already spent plenty of episodes showing the viewer the markets, the salvaging equipment and methods, the average work day, the kids playing, how they treat the sickly, etc. Episodes five and six showed two new things about their culture: with their free time they like to have a barbeque and swim, and they showed the sort of festival they host. When it comes to slice of life episodes, these events make total sense. There was nothing particularly boring about them (at least when it comes to slice of life episodes). If they went with your idea and rehashed what they’ve already shown it would be much more boring.

    • -_- says:

      God, you’re boring. Just stop talking.

  2. jonas says:

    “I would believe only in a God that knows how to dance.”

    You know how japanese writers love Nietzsche, and Nietzsche loved dancing, happiness and love. The fanservice is used to show us that to live and enjoy life, is more important than just survive.

    “What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil”.

  3. B0Mb0y says:

    No, just no. You expect me to believe that in the whole Gargantia they could only get three underaged girls to do the dumb erotic belly dancing thing? That was terrible fanservice.

    • jonas says:

      In fairness, those three girls have already been established as very extroverted.

      • B0Mb0y says:

        Then aren’t there other forms of dance they can perform instead?

        • jonas says:

          Their dance was more joyful than sexy. It´s their costumes that are too sexy for 16 year old girls. The real life version is pretty tame in comparison: http://youtu.be/_yVJ09D4P-g

          But it seems The Gargantia is very progressive about sexual freedom, episode 5 showed that they are ok with homosexual prostitution.

          As I said above the dance is a celebration of life, and its pleasures.

          “One evening went Zarathustra and his disciples through the forest; and when he sought for a well, lo, he lighted upon a green meadow peacefully surrounded by trees and bushes, where maidens were dancing together. As soon as the maidens recognised Zarathustra, they ceased dancing; Zarathustra, however, approached them with friendly mien and spake these words:
          Cease not your dancing, ye lovely maidens! No game-spoiler hath come to you with evil eye, no enemy of maidens.
          God’s advocate am I with the devil: he, however, is the spirit of gravity. How could I, ye light-footed ones, be hostile to divine dances? Or to maidens’ feet with fine ankles?
          To be sure, I am a forest, and a night of dark trees: but he who is not afraid of my darkness, will find banks full of roses under my cypresses.
          And even the little God may he find, who is dearest to maidens: beside the well lieth he quietly, with closed eyes.
          Verily, in broad daylight did he fall asleep, the sluggard! Had he perhaps chased butterflies too much?
          Upbraid me not, ye beautiful dancers, when I chasten the little God somewhat! He will cry, certainly, and weep—but he is laughable even when weeping!
          And with tears in his eyes shall he ask you for a dance; and I myself will sing a song to his dance”.

          • B0Mb0y says:

            You saw the way that scene was animated, with plenty of close up shots of the girls. Fanservice was definitely what the creators were aiming for, regardless of the meaning of the dance in-universe. The GIFs are everywhere on the net!

            Honestly speaking, I’m a great fan of this show. By the fourth episode I was ready to recommend this series to my friends. But if the creators want to show what a fish out of water Ledo is in the Gargantian society, they could do it in one episode while cutting down on the pointless fanservice. Ultimately this show only has 12 episode, and its already at its halfway point.

            On a separate note, glad to see ep 7 is back on track.

    • Scruffy says:

      While I do agree that the fanservice in ep 5 was unnecessary I think that people simply did not get what ep 6 was all about. Ep 6 was all about Ledo awakening to his desire for Amy. He’s becoming more of a person who does more than just eat seaweed bread for sustenance, and instead learning about eating for enjoyment and perhaps fall in Love. It’s trying to show that life is more than work and there is play in the world and play is important.

      The dance scene with the three girls was IMHO perfectly done. At first we have Ledo chatting with the other two and then slowly his attention becomes fixed on Amy and the others dancing. I loved how they made the vocals slowly fade into the background and we get to see Ledo’s viewpoint of the dance (hence the odd camera angles). BTW, the dance was supposed to be erotic to some extent as they were dancing to attract guys.

      The second dance was very sweet. It was less erotic and more showed Amy’s feelings for Ledo. It brought tears to my eyes.

      • Silty says:

        Agreed, they’re using fanservice for character development. That’s better than 90%+ of the fanservice out there. It wouldn’t carry the same meaning if they were dressed modestly while dancing.

        List everyone, just because so many anime have been abusing human sexuality lately, doesn’t mean we should be avoiding it entirely. There’s a right and a wrong place for everything!

  4. Arno says:

    I 90% agree with with Psgels.

    The beach episode was sort of ok because it integrated very well with the Gargantia technological universe, and also it fitted with Ledo learning to relax. However it was ruined by the trannies scenes, which were clamped on with the subtlety of a factory hammer.

    The dance episode was really, really dumb and ugly.

    Sigh… It’ so hard to recommend an anime to friends, even if it begins great you really have to watch it till the last minute to make sure there is no appalling disappointment.

    Now they resume the peace spirit vs war spirit dilemma. It didn’t work very well with the pirates, because pacifism in front of a total invasion is not peaceful coexistence, it’s surrender and death. With the squid monsters it could work better, except you could also wonder why the galaxy forces with their superior knowledge didn’t think about that. Maybe there will be a satisfying answer later…

    A good point though : I like how they modify the ending from one episode to the next.

  5. TheUltimateReaper says:

    I think people are overacting to these episodes, but I’ll also agree that they strayed somewhat and took me a bit by surprise. What I’ve found so far though is how annoyed I am with this society. I’m not sure to feel about our squids either, if it turns out that they aren’t inherently hostile and mankind fucked up in space I’m not sure how I’ll feel.

    It’s beginning to feel pointless, but we still have some ways to go.

    • Emma-hime says:

      I think I like the idea of the hideuze being victims striking back on the federation humans that struck first blood, its a good comment on “human beings are monsters because they are” and its fittingly nihilistic/misanthropic.

      • Hogart says:

        Personally I think it’s a plot device that’s been done way too many times now to work in such simple terms. It takes more than just telling me humans are bad to convince me, and the show’s treatment of the pirates and its own internal politics has been half-hearted at best, so I do hope they don’t end on a bland note.

      • TheUltimateReaper says:

        What Hogart said.

        I really liked the show at first but its on the threshold of just being grating. I wasn’t expecting anything big but I really hope things don’t just become bland.

  6. Starss says:

    Did anyone on the fleet remember that the hideaze were sacred creatures to earthlings? I was extremely annoyed by the way everyone seemed to forget after the discussion in the beginning which made it seem pretty damn taboo, saying the whole fleet was now unsettled and feared heavenly retribution. I feel that old couple praying to the heavens were about the only ones to get the reaction right.

    • black says:

      They said the whalesquids were regarded as sacred creatures since ancient times, but that doesn’t mean everyone think about them like this. It’s like what we think about God is not the same for everyone, some of us are really religious, but there are many who aren’t.

  7. boa_sting says:

    Trannies aside, was that secret-sauce barbecue fetch quest supposed to be funny? I don’t think anything in the second half of Ep. 5 worked at all or really contributed anything, but the first half was okay.

    First half of Ep. 5 had (1) Ledo wondering about money and looking for a job, (2) Pinion further confirmed as a slacker and setting him up as the kind of guy that’d later want Ledo/Chamber for his get-rich-quick expedition, (3) a contrast of scenes of Gargantia, between what people do at work (mechanic lying under machinery, Bellows swamped in desk work, fishermen maintaining nets, etc.) with what people do on their time off with the engines off (lying around, fishing, playing cards, parties). I thought it was just fine.

    Then pretty much nothing happened for an episode and a half. Pretty much all the ideas and things shown in Ep. 6 (aside from gratuitous dance scenes with really bad animation) were already in 5.

  8. boa_sting says:

    Oh yeah, one thing I thought was interesting about Ep 7 was the map behind Ridget’s head. There’s dry land, after all, just the higher parts of the Andes, Rockiess, Himalayas, and a few dots like Kilimanjaro in Africa, counter-clockwise starting from upper-left (the map seems to have south on top for whatever reason).

    Do people live on land too?

    Then again, what with the treatment of the pirates and other interactions, I’m not so sure they really know what they’re doing or have amazing things planned for the world in this show.

  9. Suburbanbanshee says:

    Anybody who’s been to an ethnic festival knows that most of the people who are willing to dance in public are prepubescent girls. Men don’t usually willingly dance in public without acrobatics, strength, attractiveness to girls, or large numbers being involved — (and usually they’re happier if everybody’s doing it, like one of those festival dances at a matsuri). And anybody who’s gone to a Maronite Catholic church festival knows that real ethnic bellydancing in public is not about sexy come-ons. It’s about joy of movement. Little kids, old women, girls.

    The interesting thing about the Gargantia scenes was that they tried to blend this kind of family friendly activity, with showing male desire as a force that drives NEET men to find a job and a life. (And later, with the solitary dance being more arty and pensive, they seemed to be talking about viewing the girl as a person with her own interests and life.)

    The important thing for the Japanese viewer was the stylized sleeves, which said that this was supposed to be a blend of bellydancing with traditional Japanese and Chinese dance forms.

  10. Arno says:

    Personally I have never seen a festival in any country nor any ethnic group that included half-naked underage girls dancing in front of adult male clients in a cabaret.

    More specifically, although I have never been to a Maronite Catholic festival and I am ready to assume you are right about belly dancing, I fail to see any remote connection with the Maronite ethnic folklore here.

    Last, I don’t know of any ethnic festival in the whole world that includes a girl dancing at the request of one man only, in an isolated place at night.

  11. Mint says:

    “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.”

    Ledo is like an immigrant that refuses to accept the customs of his new country and tries to force his beliefs on other people.

    Both the Galactic Alliance and the Gargantia are crapsack worlds. On one end you have the Spartans who live to serve the army and leave behind superior descendants. On the other hand you have people who managed to lead happy peaceful lives by adapting to the new world instead of forcing the world to adapt to them.

    We don’t know how the Galactic Alliance started a war on the Hideauze. Humans might be to blame,but we don’t have any info to back it up. To be honest, it might not even matter. For all we know, “The Final Strike” could just be the final weeding of the Neo Spartan society.

  12. -_- says:

    It doesn’t really matter what any of you think, because the show is a million times better than any garbage that could spill out of your flacid, uninspired imaginations.

    “waaaaahhhh booohoooo there’s gurls and they have boobies how horrible”

    Sack the hell up. It’s an anime, and a pretty tame one for that matter.

    • =.= says:

      butthurt fanboy alert

    • Silty says:

      Yeah.. no. The show was surprisingly good and I was actually entertained throughout the whole thing (including all of 5 and 6), but avoiding the discussion of flaws is stupid.

    • boa_sting says:

      Also, I’m not one of those that was turned away by the fanservice scenes and whatever else they tried to show (other than perhaps the extreme convenience of somehow those three girls being the ones shown).

      My point was that there was a lot of filler with not much effect. They could have condensed the useful material in 5-6 into a single episode or scrapped half the scenes / cut down on length to be able to stick in some world building or character development that actually contributes something.

      It’s not that every episode needs to be dense on dialogue, but it doesn’t look so great when it seems like a beach ep and then some dancing ep were excuses for the storytelling to slack off and take a break too.

  13. JaK says:

    once again would say don’t like it don’t watch it :P its so much fun seeing butt hurt comments of people who don’t even like this show lawls

    • B0Mb0y says:

      On the contrary im sure most people here like the show a lot the show, its obvious this show has much better writing than most anime currently airing. Episodes 5 and 6 just threw us off with content different than what we expected. Every anime has +ves and -ves.

      Also, this is an anime blog with a section for readers to comment. Naturally people are gonna express their opinions. By your logic, if you don’t like reading negative comments about our favourite show, don’t come here. Lawls.

      • JaK says:

        did i say anything even remotely like not liking reading the comments here O.o rather its comments likes yours and by the people above that make me laugh :)

        • B0Mb0y says:

          Likewise, neither did I or the people above even remotely imply that we dont even like the show. Even if we commented negatively regarding scenes from the 2 episodes, its abit of a stretch to say that we dont like the show itself.

          I may be wrong here, but im guessing you dont watch the show, and just came here to watch the fight play out between the two sides…which you find amusing. Have some popcorn and enjoy the show. Comments like ‘dont like dont watch’ and ‘butt hurt’ dont really add to the discussion.

  14. ServantOfPriss says:

    I don’t like how the show strayed from the feel of the first three episodes. Everything was perfect: an interesting, engaging story with equally interesting characters that were engaging as well, with a very rad setting.

    But the episodes have been a bore, fanservice aside (which I’ll admit, I somewhat enjoyed). Nothing advanced until episode 7 (which was a god send, by the way).

  15. Arno says:

    To reply about “don’t like it don’t watch it” above, literary criticism has a value per se and is part of the world’s cultural heritage. You don’t even have to justify that you like a show, you may dislike a show entirely, the only requisite is that you explain why.

    I know the reaction “don’t like it don’t watch it” is frequent on the internet, nevertheless it is totally incompatible with common and established practices regarding treatment of cultural works by the critics.

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@Mario: Good news, netflix will stream Okja at the end of this June.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Its not often that I rewatch things, but years ago I've seen Lain at least three times, its also one of those few anime series where I felt to look up deeper analysis into it. It had a tremendous atmosphere and was ahead of its time.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: watching Ghost Hound made me want to revisit Serial Experiment Lain and give my episodic thoughts on that. Not gonna happen soon as I have my hand full right now but I swear I'll get to that one day.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I actually am planning to rewatch ghost hound soon, so I'll give you my new thoughts on it then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I always avoided Altair mostly based on it being a shounen action series. Kakeguruis premise involves gambling games, which I don't find interesting.
KTravlos
Kakegurui is on my list. I thought it would be crap (terrible setting etc), but the manga won me over. Princess Principal will be given a chance, so will Shoukouko no Altair.and perhaps Reflection. We shall see. Also Twilight Axis Gundam, as I love the manga team.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Recap episodes exist because of production troubles. Sometimes shit happens when you make an anime.
You are being a bit overally argressive but I do agree with the statement that Ntr is pathetic power fantasy. It really is.
Anonymous1099236
Ntr is a pathetic power fantasy for pathetic people
Anonymous1099236
Why the hell do recap episodes exist. Do they think we're that autistic
SuperMario
I honestly don't even what NTR is so I had to look it up. Interesting
SuperMario
Just a quick remaider that Tsuki ga Kirei has a recap episode this week. And yep, after watching this week's Sakura Quest I think I'm gonna stick with it
SuperMario
Flipping through the list, I'm also pretty know what I'm interested in, most of them are original anime, which is a plus
SuperMario
@Aidan: I'm still amazed that us never have to fight over covering shows, except for that one time with Flip Flappers. Always thought that crappy tastes are the same
Kaiser-Eoghan
*Those two comments were refering to NTR trap
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would really genuinely like to see some of these smut manga actually functionally use fanservice and romantic sex scenes rather than just cheap titilattion
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Poorly done ragey drama with bad comedy bits , I've reached a point with it where I no longer want my time wasted by it.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I admit to having passing interest in Princess Principal but not enough to fight you over it.
And Tsurezure Children is actually really really good. Really fluffy love stories with great comedy.
SuperMario
haha, even me who love slice-of-life won't fall for Tsurezure Children
SuperMario
@Aidan: Princess Principal
SuperMario
@Kaiser: The character designs on Centaur kind of weirds me out though
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Ugh...that one. Imagine a discount scums wish and you get the general idea.
AidanAK47
Mate if you are talking about Fate then let me say there is no way in hell I am not covering that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
NTR as the title of an anime? How shameless.
AidanAK47
@Mario,....Tsurezure Children?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised by centaur no nanami's manga. Actually cares about its setting and genuinely charming characters.
SuperMario
@Aidan: and this time there is 1 show we might both want to cover ^^
AidanAK47
I will have to start writing up that preview for this. I think it's pretty obvious what I am looking forward the most to watching.
AidanAK47
Links generally work with text if you place them at the end of it. Like so:
http://anichart.net/Summer-2017
Kaiser-Eoghan
[link src="http://anichart.net/Summer-2017
I....I"] might at least try the Vatican kiseki one and centaur no nanami...
AidanAK47
@Anon, Don't believe Clickbait. This is all based on a quote from the author thanking the animation studio and hoping for an opportunity to work with them in the future. What this confirms is that there is no plans for a season 3...yet. Could very well happen in the future. What this confirms is that it ain't happening any time soon.
Puran
Natsume is killing it this season.
Anonymous1094513
RIP Konosuba. Season 3 confirmed to not happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PvOmsKjcJU.
Lenlo
Im not sure what they are even saying.
Anonymous1092432
lmao Anon 250 got rekt
AidanAK47
Normally I would delete openly offensive posts but seeing as these don't make enough sense to be offensive I will give them a free pass.
AidanAK47
No idea who this Adnan guy is but if he watches gay porn then so what?
Anonymous1092250
adnan watches gay porn
Anonymous1092250
people who watch one piece are just watching gay porn
Anonymous1092250
one piece of shit
SuperMario
Hey, do you guys know about wanna cry ransomware? how's the heck that I just aware of its existence today? Scary@@
Lenlo
Haha will do, but im not gonna compete outside a local, maybe regional level, not anymore. I mostly want to get back into my old shape after 2 years of letting it lapse.
SuperMario
Oh, congrats. Used to play sport in competitive level myself (tennis), but now I feel like an old big fat geezer now haha. Keep me updated on your Fencing as it might motivate me to join sooner ^^
Lenlo
Dont even have to work out to do Fencing, you can just go for fun once a week. Im just trying to get back into competitive shape now that I have my degree
SuperMario
I'm not really big on workin out though; my housemate just keeps asking to join gyming but I always back out, haha. Although I'm okay with running and I'm doing yoga like 4 times a week
Lenlo
Cool. And definitely, give Fencing a try, find your local gym.
SuperMario
When you feel sore it just means it's working, so all good haha. I'm still pretty much interested in try Fencing one day btw. About Uchouten, it's about a bunch of tanuki in human shape wander around and having fun (I'm not serious btw). I think the forst episode of the first season can tell you exactly the tone of the show, so you can watch that episode to see if it's your thing
Lenlo
I both love and hate the post-workout aches. Its what I get for trying to get back into Fencing shape.

Whats Uchouten about?
SuperMario
My love is blind, Kaiser. When I love a show I tend to go overboard with it ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
I’d forgotten how fun these characters are, although some of the novelty, charm, humour has worn off, it is still there and I’m beginning to re-remember while watching.
I do hope though that they’ll do more with Kaisei and Bonten however.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Annnnd thank you Mario again for your reviews tempting me to watch a show.
I was hesitant sitting down to watch season 2 of Uchouten Kazoku because it had been so long since I saw the original.
I caught up, Nidaime and Tenyama got my attention most, standout scenes were the shogi match and the second half of episode inside the painting, the bits between Yaichiro and that girl.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Honestly I could never do the sleeping on the back thing, thats largely because I heard that it increases the risk of sleep paralysis/apnea.
SuperMario
WHY PROTECTING THEM THEN?
SuperMario
You know that human is the only mammal/race that sleep on their back?
KTravlos
hahaha
Lenlo
Is his wall being built with Mexicans? Are they inside the wall, AoT style?
Kaiser-Eoghan
MAKE TITAN GREAT AGAIN =<
Yes that is true aim of Donald Trump's wall, he's actually in the know, trying to keep out Titans.
AidanAK47
WE SHALL KILL ALL OF THE ANONS.
....Wheres my 3D gear?
KTravlos
they all are anonymous and thus enemies of the human race :p
AidanAK47
@KTravlos, Just to clarify but the guy who wrote " idk wtf " and the guy writing the paragraphs are clearly two different people.
KTravlos
I also dislike anonimity on the net. If you are not in danger of being killed or purged because of your name, you should offer it. It is the right thing to do.
KTravlos
done by a lesser director. Simply put and to end it on my part: Exaggeration is the core of art. You can exaggerate the mundane , but exaggeration it still is.
KTravlos
They focus on it and make it the centerpiece. All motion picture does this, and anime does this very well in my humble opinion. There are things that are "easier" to do in live action. But make no mistake, it all comes down to the director and his team. Despite the fact that Monster is very grounded , some of its most evocative scenes would not work if done live action. Or would had not worked if
KTravlos
Look I was sharp because I do not like the whole idk etf culture thing. Should tell you my age.

What I meant with my words can be made more accessible with this analogy. Do you find yourself moved by paintings? Photos? None of this give the immediacy of the whole picture a moving image gives. And yet we are moved by them. This is because they take a element of reality and exaggerate it....
Anonymous1091057
Anyways, I should stop lol. I just ranted like less than 24 hours ago. Gotta go to uni soon anyways
Anonymous1091057
Whoops, I meant to say, ... or even stuff like Baccano could work in western live action.
Anonymous1091057
Also, I feel like shows that have some western context already infused in them, like most sports shows (i.e. Kuroko no Basket for example), or even stuff like Baccano, but once again it'd be hard to pull of the craziness and coolness of the shows, because a lot of it comes from the shows animation and style.
Anonymous1091057
But also, those shows might just be too weird for western live action.
Anonymous1091057
I don't see shows like One Piece or JJBA for example working in western live action well, at least for a long time till the CGI becomes much, much better so to not to completely destroy our suspension of disbelief.
Anonymous1091057
Those sort of works have a cross-potential for working both in anime and western live action. Then I feel slowly you can start littering in some of the more sci-fi esque ones like Steins;gate, or supernatural horror ones like Death Note.
Anonymous1091057
That's why I feel like the best hope for adapting anime into live action movies and TV shows (TV probably would be better for adapting anime tho), is to start with the more grounded, like Monster or even something like LoGH which has a sci-fi element but still maintains a sort of realism.
Anonymous1091057
There are good western movies and TV shows that are strange, but not bizarre; weird, but not the same kind of say JJBA.
Anonymous1091057
I feel like this difference between the 2 mediums makes it hard to adapt anime into live action, particularly western movies. Most anime are closer to the extreme of creative and zany than the extreme of grounded which movies are better at pulling off.
Anonymous1091057
Or another example is Steins;gate. No other medium could have a plot about bananas, time machines, cell phones, world war 3, and make it work pretty well everything said and done.
Anonymous1091057
Or how in the world could JoJo's Bizarre Adventure ever work out, with its complete craziness, except in anime. I know they're making a movie from the first arc of DiU, but they inevitably have to strip away some of the weirdness that makes the series great.
Anonymous1091057
But then on the other hand, I'm not the biggest fan of modern western superhero shows, particularly because I feel like it's better suited to anime. I'll take One Piece, FMA, or Hunter x Hunter (just to name a few) over 90% of superhero movies today.
Anonymous1091057
*movies aren't a great example of this as a whole, there's a scene from the last Hobbit movie which kinda shows how live action captures the tiny tics and "boringness" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIaJb6RY0TQ
Anonymous1091057
Or like, just the way a character breathes; while the movies aren
Anonymous1091057
I feel live action is better able to capture the minute, "boring", or slow parts of life. For example you don't see too many slow shots in the animated medium (maybe movies being an exception), but they're common in live action (not as much in modern movies, but still).
Anonymous1091057
I agree its a matter of personal preference, and I didn't mean to imply that I thought anime was inferior to TV or vice-versa, but just that they offer different types of experiences. I feel anime excels at the imaginative, crazy, and bizarre, while live action succeeds at the grounded, mundane, and "boringness" of living.
KTravlos
I do not care if you do not know what I am talking about. There we are.
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