Posted by psgels on 9 January 2014 with categories: Top 10 Anime

Over the years, even when I just started blogging, I’ve seen enough people get tired of anime, claiming that anime in the past used to be so much better. I remember that I kindof saw their point, however there were plenty of awesome series to keep me watching. However, after the current state of the season so far, I really do long for the anime of the past, and they seemed so much more diverse.

However, the big trap with these statements is to over-glorify the past. “Yeah, the past used to be so much better, in my days blah blah”, so you need to be careful with these kinds of statements: you forget the boring parts and only remember the things that stood out. So because of that I decided to take a good look back at the past winter seasons. I’ll rank all of them, but I’ll talk about them in chronological order. For each picture, I’ll use a picture of the series that turned out to be the best, by the standards I hold today.

Once this season has ended, if I feel motivated enough, I’ll also include it in this list.

Winter 2013


This was a really bad season. The only remotely good non-sequel show to come out of it was Kotoura-san. It had a very strong first episode for a school series, and managed to keep it up for 1 cour. Beyond that, the obvious stand-out was a sequel: Chihayafuru, which admittedly was just fantastic. AKB0048 unfortunately was not as interesting as I hoped it to be, and Amnesia and Tamako Market had promising first episodes, only to crash down horribly. Apart from that, the school setting was again very prevalent (Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai, Mangirl, Sasami@Ganbaranai). Lots of series looked the same, but there also was some historical fantasy here and there (Maoyuu, The Hakkenden, Senran Kagura). Out of around 31 series, I only found three of them actually worth watching.
Rank: #11

Winter 2012


This was a season in which suddenly there were three ambitious science fiction series airing at the same time: Rinne no Lagrange, Mouretsu Pirates and Aquarion Evol. Out of those, only Rinne ended up not fulfilling its promise, but still it wasn’t bad. On top of that there was a solid horror-series with Another, and three really solid comedies in the form of Poyopoyo Kansatsu Nikki, Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou and the incredibly random second season of Tantei Opera Milky Holmes. Natsume Yuujinchou came with its amazing fourth season that gave a ton of depth into the people around him. So yes, I would say that this was a very good season, with a pretty decent variety as well. Aside from mecha and comedy, there also was slice of life, sports, fantasy and romance. I would call this a very well rounded season.
Rank: #7

Winter 2011


This season stood out due to three absolutely amazing series: Level E, Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica and Hourou Musuko. All three together covered the entire spectrum: one was a brilliant comedy, another brilliantly deconstructed the mahou shoujo genre, and another was a brilliant look into what it is to be a transgender. These three alone made this season worth watching, and on top of that we also get a pretty decent closure to Kimi ni Todoke, a “so bad it’s good”-comedy Mitsudomoe Zouryouchuu, and Gosick, an adventure series which started out questionably, but ended beautifully. The downside to this season was that there were a lot of stinkers. Fractale is the most notable for having a wonderful premise, only to completely ignore it, but Yumekui Merry had the same fate: great premise and execution, but just cut off in the middle leaving nothing resolved. Dragon Crisis just went worse as it went along, and Kore wa Zombie Desu Ka also failed to stay funny. Not to mention the epically bad Rio Rainbow Gate, Infinite Stratos and another Oniichan series. A season of huge ups and huge downs.
Rank: #6

Winter 2010


Oh boy, I remember how this was a stinker when it came along. However, looking back on it, it’s not the worst, it’s better than the Winter of 2013, however that season was backed up by a very strong Autumn season, while this one… wasn’t. So we were stuck with Durarara, a series which thankfully had a fantastic first half, only to have a much less interesting second half later on. The one series that stood out was Heartcatch Precure, the series that showed how much you can do with the mahou shoujo formula. Katanagatari also was interesting and fresh with its wordplay, but the problem with these series was that they paid out very slowly: Heartcatch Precure only started in February and had 50 episodes, and Katanagatari only aired once a month. Apart from that there were series that had interesting premises and were nice to watch, but never really were meant for greatness, like Cobra The Animation, a revival of the classic TV-series, and Sora no Oto, which at the very least had a very intriguing setting (really rushed ending though!). However, this also was the season in which the barriers of good taste got lowered significantly: Seikon no Qwaser was pretty much borderline porn. With a measly 17 series total that aired, things did not look good for anime at the time. However, things recovered afterwards.
Rank: #10

Winter 2009


Winter 2009 was weird. It was stunning, completely stunning. Birdy the Mighty Decode still stands in my top 10 because of it. White Album was incredibly annoying, but ultimately worth it and a unique romance. Ride Back started out rather weird, but it turned out to be a pretty unique mecha series about an adult female who drove this cross between a motorcycle and a robot. Maria-sama ga Miteru surpassed itself, Shikabane Hime was weird, but ultimately awesome to watch, and Hajime no Ippo also completely surpassed itself. It was glorious, and yet there were so many annoyances at the same time with how the Tower of Druaga failed to live up to its hype, Natsume Yuujinchou’s second season was not as strong as the first, Koukaku no Regios didn’t go anywhere, Kurokami failed to deliver, and Munto turned out to be nothing more than a blatant recap. I also remember complaining about how there were way too many sequels this season. And true, the amount of sequels at the very least has never been as overwhelming as in this season. 2009 was definitely the year with the most conflicting feelings.
Rank: #3

Winter 2008


This season was one of the best winter seasons ever. The reason was the sheer quantity of amazing series that aired. Porphy no Nagai Tabi is a series that today can not be made: 52 episodes dedicated to a children’s novel, coupled with stunning background art. Gunslinger Girl’s sequel was very controversial due to the style change, but I loved it. Shigofumi had an awesome concept of a girl who brought back letters from the dead, and True Tears is one of those unique romances in which you never really know what the characters were thinking. Hakaba Kitarou seamlessly combined horror with comedy, Aria the Origination was an amazing conclusion to the Aria franchise and Spice and Wolf was a really intelligent look at medieval economics with excellent characters. THIS. This is what a winter season should be. There was something for everyone, many risks were taken and many series delivered in well thought-out ways. There were a few disappointments, but none of them were really big disappointments. Just a few series that burned out in their second halves (Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei and Sisters of Wellber 2), and the obviously bad series like Rosario to Vampire were in a minority and could be easily avoided.
Rank: #1

Winter 2007


The 2007 season had much less quantity. However, what it lacked there, it made up for in quality as it premiered two series that would grow out to be absolute classics: Les Miserables and Nodame Cantabile. This definitely was a season for the people into classic literature or music. No other season has ever been able to deliver two of these masterpieces at the same time. If you look at the rest of the season, the you’ll see lots of action: generic action series or series about people with powers fighting each other, that never really stood out. Rocket Girls was nice, and Master of Epic also was this unique little comedy series. There also was slice of life, sports. That’s the big difference between this season’s lackluster series: in 2014, everything looks like each other. In 2007, things were uninteresting, but at least they were different.
Rank: #5

Winter 2006


This was the first winter season I actively followed. And what a season it turned out to be: Ayakashi ~ Japanese Classic Horror, Ergo Proxy and Rescue Wings together. All incredible series, aimed at adults, yet all completely different. Beyond that there was a really solid romance series situated in a hospital with HanTsuki, Magikano was hilarious back when Seiji Kishi was still good. Plus, Nerima Daikon Brothers: an actual animated musical that never got fully subbed, yet was really fun to watch. There may not be as many series here, but here is the thing with this season: all these six series were incredibly well thought out. They had some really interesting ideas and they took their risks, instead of rehashing the most popular thing around. All of these series set out to challenge the status quo and do something never done before. Even Magikano, as its brand of humour was still fresh back then.
Rank: #4

Winter 2005


Here we get to the point where I haven’t seen every series that came out, so my view of this season has also a few impressions here and there. This was an average season, that delivered two really strong short series: Air and Starship Operators. Romance and space opera. Beyond that there was the short comedy Gag Manga Biyori. Beyond that, there’s lots of romance, mecha and kiddie shows. I mean things like Mahou Sensei Negima, Peach Girl, Jinki Extend: I saw small fragments of them but none of them really looked like they had potential. This actually reminds me a lot of the season we’re currently in.
Rank: #8

Winter 2004


This is a weird season since there were two utter classics that aired with strange schedules: Ghost in the Shell’s second season aired two episodes at the start of each month, and Paranoia Agent started in february. Especially Paranoia Agent was absolutely fantastic in every single way. But yeah, this season absolutely rocked. One of the best action series out there in the form of Jubei-chan 2 also was shown here. That’s three completely amazing shows in one winter-season, and the rest of the season, even the not interesting ones, are incredibly varied. There are fanservice series, but plenty of historical ones, there is a comedy, there are series aimed at a young audience, and old audience, plenty of series that took risks and series that just stayed with the status quo. The balance is perfect here.
Rank: #2

Winter 2003


The top three series this season were all really inspired: The Big O’s second season really knew how to play with the mecha genre, Ashita no Nadja was a really creative shoujo adventure that we nowadays never get to see anymore, and Wolf’s Rain, although the execution left a bit to be desired here and there, really stood out with how its main cast consisted out of wolves, and I absolutely cannot fault its setting, which was incredibly imaginative. Beyond that though, this was a small season. Most of the other shows were just harmless fluff or just plain bad series. Oh, and Licensed by Royal, which I haven’t seen but admittedly does look interesting.
Rank: #9

Winter 2002


One thing to note is that ten years ago, the seasons were much smaller. This season, ignoring the kiddie shows, had about 16 anime. The best of which was RahXephon, which was an intelligent mecha series, definitely. Also good were the adventure series Patapata Hikousen no Bouken for the younger audience, and Fullmetal Panic, for the older audience. Nothing standout like in previous years though. Kanon also premiered, starting the trend of key adaptations, and Onegai Teacher aired as well. Nothing much stands out, but there are lots of cute girls, along with generic action series in which the enemies are strange supernatural beings.
Rank: #12

Winter 2001


Here we get to the part where the winter season was pretty much insignificant. The only series that are noteworthy are Arjuna (a nature series, admittedly very creative) and Tales of Eternia. Ojamajo Doremi also had one of its seasons here, but apart from that… there was hardly anything. That I’ve seen, at least. The thing is that there are surprisingly many series that feature adults as their protagonists. There are 14 series in total, and while most of them indeed do look uninteresting to me, they don’t suffer from the problem of not trying out different things.
Rank: #14

Winter 2000


Only 9 series aired in total. 9. That’s nothing. One series stood out from the bunch: Boogiepop Phantom. Fantastic show if you want to work hard in order to understand a series. Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran was also a very solid period piece. Beyond that though were mostly kiddie shows (we saw Mushrambo and Mon Colle Knights on Dutch TV, actually), but yeah, it’s apparent that producers at this age didn’t see much into winter seasons, and any series airing there is a mere coincidence. I’ll stop my overview here then.
Rank: #13

Conclusion

So, what did I conclude from this? Well, globally, these years can be divided into three periods. In the first period, until about 2005: relatively few series were released, and among them were two or three series that really stood out as amazing series, only 2004 had more and falls more in the period that came afterwards. The rest of the series were meh, however they were varied and were different from each other.

The second period is what I’d like to call the golden age of anime. It lasted from 2006 to 2009, including 2004 (and 2011 and 2012, I guess). The season size got much larger, and with that the amount of amazing series also increased. Every season had so many series that worthwhile. There was something for everyone and so many series came up with interesting ideas, rock solid executions. There were meh series, and series that didn’t deliver, but even amongst them was enough good stuff and things were varied.

And the third period started in 2010. Globally, things returned to having two or three really standout, really good series, with the rest not really being remarkable. But here’s the kicker: as opposed to the first period, the amount of series per season still is huge. There are as many series as in period two, and most likely even more! The result is that while a decade ago, you had the same amount of standout series, this time they’re surrounded by heaps and heaps of generic series that on top of that all look the same and don’t try to be anything new, different or fresh. You get piles of series that are all trying to fit into the same niche and therefore all just end up watering each other down due to the huge amount of competition.

Because of this, the stakes to stand out get higher, so more money is poured into the animation budget. The financial risk is higher, so in terms of storytelling you can’t take many risks either, so people opt for safe scriptwriters and series with interesting ideas are really hard to greenlight. Because of how everything is overcrowded, series that have certain elements in them tend to sell more, so every series needs to have those elements in them in order to also compete for sales. Even the good ones, leading to the excessive amounts of fanservice you see in nearly every show today. I mean, it cannot be a coincidence that Kill la Kill and Space Dandy, the TWO series that set out to try something new and different, both being ended up so crass at the same time.

So yes. I’m not saying anime is dying. I’m saying anime is in dire need of a new business model. The current one is fifteen years old now, and the lack of innovation is starting to hurt. The industry thankfully isn’t as far south as the gaming industry is, however something needs to happen. Be bold! Be creative! Screw conventions!

32 Responses

  1. Kurini says:

    It was a good read! It reminded me of some series I wanted to try and I added some series I would like to watch!
    I hope you’ll make one for spring, summer and fall too! :D

  2. Zadown says:

    “The industry thankfully isn’t as far south as the gaming industry is, however something needs to happen.”

    Gaming is both stale at the high end and very interesting and constantly changing at the indie scale of things with Kickstarter providing funds for both nostalgic and innovative enterprises. But you can’t (at least not yet) create impressive anime with tiny indie teams so you only get the stale high end side of things compared to gaming industry. Silly comment all in all, IMO. :P

    • Matthew I says:

      Yeah, video games are entering an age where the ease of creation and the number of people creating means that there is never going to be a cease to the flow of great games. There’s thousands of games released a DAY, and there are always people who play enough to sift through the crap for everyone else! And the ‘video game industry’ is basically unkillable, because theyre not tied to any business model. AAA games are not really my thing.

      Anime, on the other hand, could fall dead any day, its position is so precarious

    • Scruffy says:

      Makoto Shinkai may disagree with you about the possibility of indie Anime. He pretty much created ‘Voices of a Distant Star’ on his Mac at home and him and his then GF initially provided the voices. It’s true it was just an OVA but that is one way that Anime is innovating. We also have other kickstarter funded OVA’s such as Little Witch Academia.

    • notintheface11 says:

      Yes, this comment is simply ignorant. Games are just about as good as they’ve ever been. Focusing on the Call of Duty’s and AAA EA titles is akin to defining anime by whatever big KyoAni fanservice show is on at the moment. Anime didn’t have the best year in 2013 but that doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with it or even its business model. Stuff that makes money tends to do well, and you just have to embrace that while continuing to look for the good in the medium.

  3. kyurenjo says:

    This is an amazing read. Wow.

    Looking forward to Spring, Summer, and Fall version.

  4. KaZuHiRo says:

    Here are the (most) complete list of anime that aired in Winter

    2000
    Daa! Daa! Daa!
    Ojamajo Doremi #
    Shinzo (Mushrambo)
    Miami Guns
    The Super Milk-chan Show
    Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran
    Mon Colle Knights
    Pilot Candidate (Megami Kouhousei)
    Boogiepop Phantom

    2001
    Salaryman Kintaro
    Mo~tto! Ojamajo Doremi
    Sushi Azarashi
    Sadamitsu the Destroyer
    Earth Defense Family
    Arjuna
    Beyblade
    Baki the Grappler
    Tales of Eternia
    Zoids/Zero

    2002 (suddenly got bigger)
    MegaMan NT Warrior
    Arcade Gamer Fubuki
    Kick Off
    Ojamajo Doremi Dokkaan!
    Galaxy Angel Z
    Genma Wars
    Kanon 2002
    RahXephon
    Aquarian Age – Sign for Evolution
    Seven of Seve
    Ultimate Muscle
    Full Metal Panic!
    Beyblade: V-Force
    Mirage of Blaze
    Panyo Panyo Di Gi Charat
    Patapata Hikousen no Bouken
    *I didn’t include Gun Frontier since it aired in the last week of March

    2003
    Tenshi no Shippo Chu!
    Beast Fighter – The Apocalypse
    Digi-girl Pop!
    Gunparade March
    Ashita no Nadja
    Crush Gear Nitro
    Someday’s Dreamers (Mahou Tsukai ni Taisetsuna Koto)
    Shutsugeki! Machine Robo Rescue
    .hack//Legend Of The Twilight (Hack Udeden)
    L/R: Licensed by Royalty
    Nanaka 6/17
    Wolf’s Rain
    Ga-Ra-Ku-Ta: Mr. Stain on Junk Alley
    Beyblade G Revolution
    Lime-iro Senkitan (Raimuiro Senkitan)
    Stratos 4
    Mouse

    2004 (this is probably my favorite)
    Hit o Nerae!
    Yugo the Negotiator
    Paranoia Agent
    Kaiketsu Zorori
    Futari wa Pretty Cure
    Diamond Daydreams
    Daphne in the Brilliant Blue
    Burn-Up Scramble
    The Cosmopolitan Prayers
    Monkey Turn
    Transformers: Energon
    Area 88
    Gravion Zwei
    Yumeria
    Jubei-Chan 2: The Counterattack of Siberia Yagyuu
    Maria-sama ga Miteru
    Gokusen
    B-Legend! Battle Bedaman
    Mezzo DSA
    Misaki Chronicles (Divergence Eve 2)
    Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig

    2005
    Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan
    Strawberry Marshmallow
    La Corda D’Oro – primo passo
    Gag Manga Biyori
    Futari wa Pretty Cure Max Heart
    Buzzer Beater
    D.I.C.E.
    Damekko Doubutsu
    H2: Kimi to Ita Hibi
    Battle B-Daman: Fire Spirits
    Ultimate Girls
    Mahoraba ~Heartful Days~
    Sukisyo
    Transformers: Cybertron
    Gallery Fake
    Pandalian
    Peach Girl
    Ah! My Goddess
    Negima!
    Starship Operators
    Jinki:Extend
    Xenosaga: The Animation
    Lime-iro Ryuukitan X
    Magical Canan

    2006
    Shinigami no Ballad
    Ergo Proxy
    Papillon Rose
    Futari wa Precure Splash Star
    Binchou-tan
    REC
    Meine Liebe Wieder
    Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora
    Ayakashi – Samurai Horror Tales
    Kashimashi – Girl Meets Girl
    Funny Pets
    Nerima Daikon Brothers
    Yomigaeru Sora -Rescue Wings-
    Bakkyuu Hit! Crash Bedaman
    Kage kara Mamoru!
    Tactical Roar
    Wan Wan Serebu Soreyuke! Tetsunoshin
    Lemon Angel Project
    Rakugo Tennyo Oyui
    Amaenaide yo!! Katsu!!
    Kinnikuman Nisei – Ultimate Muscle 2
    Kagihime Monogatari – Eikyuu Alice Rondo
    Magikano

    2007
    Romeo × Juliet
    Ikki-Tousen: Dragon Destiny
    Rocket Girls
    Juusou Kikou Dancouga Nova
    Naruto Shippuuden
    Dinosaur King
    Yes! Precure 5
    Moonlight Mile
    Reideen
    Tokyo Majin Gakuen Kenpucho: Tou
    GR -Giant Robo-
    Getsumen to Heiki Mina
    Nodame Cantabile
    Venus Versus Virus
    Hidamari Sketch
    Les Misérables Shoujo Cosette
    Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight!
    Master of Epic
    Shuffle! Memories
    Deltora Quest
    Himawari Too!!
    Koisuru Tenshi Angelique – Kagayaki no Ashita
    Kyoushiro to Towa no Sora (Shattered Angels)
    Saint October
    Afro Samurai

    2008
    Gag Manga Biyori 3
    Bus Gamer
    Yes! Precure 5 GoGo!
    Kodai Ouja Kyouryuu King D-Kids Adventure: Yokuryuu Densetsu
    Daughters of Mnemosyne
    On-chan
    Moegaku*5
    Yatterman
    Hakaba Kitaro
    Noramimi
    Spice and Wolf
    Aria the Origination
    Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino
    Porfy no Nagai Tabi
    Minami-ke: Okawari
    Persona -Trinity Soul-
    Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
    Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de
    Shigofumi – Letters from the Departed
    Zenryoku Usagi
    Hatenkou Yuugi
    True Tears
    Rosario + Vampire
    H2O ~Footprints in the Sand~
    Sisters of Wellber Zwei

    2009
    Fresh Pretty Cure
    Hetalia – Axis Powers
    Genji Monogatari Sennenki
    Keihin Kazoku
    Sakuran Boy DT
    Yume o Kanaeru Zou
    Sora o Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai (Munto)
    Slayers Evolution-R
    Rideback
    Kemono no Souja Erin
    Chrome Shelled Regios
    Examurai Sengoku
    Kupuu~!! Mamegoma!
    Birdy the Mighty Decode:02
    Asu no Yoichi!
    The Tower of Druaga: the Sword of Uruk
    Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger
    Viper’s Creed
    Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou
    Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo
    Minami-ke: Okaeri
    Butazuka
    White Album
    Kotonakare Hero Gingerman
    Maria-sama ga Miteru (4th Season)
    Shikabane Hime: Kuro

    2010
    Wagnaria!!
    Heartcatch Precure!
    Chi-Sui Maru
    Katanagatari
    Nodame Cantabile: Finale
    Hanamaru Kindergarten
    Unko-san Junjou-ha
    Seikon no Qwaser
    Kaitou Reinya
    Durarara!!
    Dance in the Vampire Bund
    Ookamikakushi
    Hidamari Sketch × Hoshimittsu
    Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
    Omamori Himari
    Chu-Bra!!
    Sora no Woto
    Gag Manga Biyori+
    Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3: Owari Naki Unmei
    Cobra the Animation

    2011
    Mai no Mahou to Katei no Hi
    Bakugan: Mechtanium Surge
    Suite Precure
    Fractale
    Hourou Musuko
    DD Hokuto no Ken
    Dragon Crisis!
    Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?
    Level E
    Beelzebub
    Cardfight!! Vanguard
    Freezing
    Mitsudomoe Zouryouchuu!
    Oniichan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janain Dakara ne—!!
    Gosick
    Otona Joshi no Anime Time
    Wolverine
    Puella Magi Madoka Magica
    Yumekui Merry
    Infinite Stratos
    Kimi ni Todoke 2nd Season
    Rio – Rainbow Gate!

    2012
    Monsuno
    Smile Precure!
    Black Rock Shooter
    Danball Senki W
    Gokujou!
    Inu X Boku Secret Service
    Thermae Romae
    Papa no Iu Koto o Kikinasai!
    Another
    Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou
    Ano Natsu de Matteru
    Aquarion Evol
    Rinne no Lagrange
    Poyopoyo
    Mouretsu Pirates
    Brave10
    Zero no Tsukaima F
    Nisemonogatari
    Area no Kishi
    High School DxD
    Senki Zesshou Symphogear
    Amagami SS+
    Tantei Opera Milky Holmes Dai-Ni-Maku
    Kill Me Baby
    Recorder and Randsell
    The Prince of Tennis II
    Natsume Yuujinchou TV 4

    2013
    RDG: Red Data Girl
    Otona Joshi no Anime Time Season 2
    Dokidoki! Precure
    Chokkyuu Hyoudai Robot Anime
    Hetalia The Beautiful World
    Ganbare! Lulu Lolo – Tiny Twin Bears
    Beast Saga
    Cardfight!! Vanguard: Link Joker Hen
    Ganbare! Odenkun
    Chihayafuru 2
    Mondaiji Tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Soudesuyo?
    Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Next
    Kotoura-san
    Sasami-san@Ganbaranai
    Vividred Operation
    gdgd Fairies
    GJ Club
    Tamako Market
    Senyuu
    Amnesia
    The Unlimited -Hyoubu Kyousuke
    Bakumatsu Gijinden Roman
    Line Offline Salaryman
    Ishida to Asakura
    Love Live! School Idol Project
    Senran Kagura
    AKB0048 Next Stage
    D.C.III ~Da Capo III~
    Hakkenden: Eight Dogs of the East
    Minami-ke Tadaima
    Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru
    Cuticle Detective Inaba
    Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
    Ai Mai Mi
    Mangirl!
    Yama no Susume
    Heroes ~Legend of Battle Disks~

    2014 (To Watch for)
    Happiness Charge Precure!
    Inari, Konkon, Koi Iroha.
    Maken-Ki! Two
    Wizard Barristers: Benmashi Cecil
    Nisekoi
    Sekai Seifuku ~ Bouryaku no Zvezda
    Tesagure! Bukatsu-mono Encore
    No-Rin
    Wake Up, Girls!
    Go! Go! 575
    Hozuki no Reitetsu
    Magical Warfare
    Meitantei Rascal
    Pupa
    Sakura Trick
    Silver Spoon 2
    Strange+
    Z/X Ignition
    Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions! Ren
    Mikakunin de Shinkoukei
    Oneechan ga Kita
    Youkai Watch
    Hamatora
    Wooser no Sono Higurashi Kakusei-hen
    D-Fragments
    Koukaku Kidoutai Nyumon Arise
    SoniAni -Super Sonico the Animation-
    Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta
    Minna Atsumare! Falcom Gakuen
    Nobunaga The Fool
    Nobunagun
    Noragami
    Saki Zenkoku-hen
    Space Dandy
    Tonari no Seki-kun
    Witch Craft Works
    Future Card Buddyfight
    Saikin, Imouto no Yousu ga Chotto Okashiin Da Ga
    Robot Girls Z
    Seitokai Yakuindomo 2
    Buddy Complex

    And here is 1999 (which is probably the best winter season ever)
    Digimon Adventure
    Petshop of Horrors
    Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne
    Bomber Man & Bidaman Bakugaiden V
    Ojamajo Doremi
    Hatsumei Boy Kanipan (Gadget Boy)
    Beast Wars Neo
    Himiko-den
    Chiisana Kyojin Microman
    Space Pirate Mito
    Crest of the Stars

    • omo says:

      Thanks for this comment, it helps to compare that with what the main post is talking about. Granted it is missing a few things and has some OVAs and what not listed.

      As for me, 2008 was also an outstanding season but each year there were more interesting shows than before. I think on average 2008-2014 was way more interesting than 2000-2007 (golden age was not so golden IMO). I also agree 1999 was a surprisingly awesome year (by ratio).

    • KaZuHiRo says:

      I forgot to add Kurokami, Maria Holic and Akikan! in Winter 2009

  5. Tassia says:

    Please stop saying “to be a transgender”! I know you’re Dutch and I understand you having a bit of difficultly with English. I’m thinking your other transgender readers, such as Emma, probably also feel awkward reading that. Transgender is an adjective, not a noun. These are all correct: “I am a transgender person”, “I am a transsexual woman”, and “I am a trans girl”. I loved Hourou Musuko and was really emotionally into it- it’s an amazing series in general, though part of my joy for it was probably from the fact that I was trans and not out to even myself yet back when I was watching it 3 years ago and following your blog. I still feel so passionately for trans kids like Nitori and Takatsuki.

    • Emma says:

      @Tassia: Ha, oh my , I must say that although I do appreciate the thought I got more of a chuckle out of the odd phrasing in that sentence he wrote , heh I don’t feel all that bothered or offended. I felt autistic compelled at one point though to correct him jokingly when he mixed up the word transvestism with mtf transexuality. (But I’m not one for being a phrasing nazi! lol)
      I actually had the same experience as you with the show, I even went to rewatch it when I had more of an idea.

      I already popped my comments on the shoutbox about this post but I think reading this again I’ll add that putting in perspective winter seasons tend not to be as good as other seasons more often than not.

      • Tassia says:

        Yeah, I wasn’t really offended either. I have Asperger’s and that may contribute to me habitually wanting that corrected. And I so often see trans people on reddit correcting cis people’s messup on this grammar.

        I totally agree with your opinions on 2011. In 2008 I was only beginning to be seriously into anime and was almost entirely watching stuff life Miyazaki, Naruto, FMA, Code Geass, Azumanga Daioh, Great Teacher Onizuka, Girl Who Leapt Through Time, and 5 cm/s. Of what psgels mentioned in 2008 I’ve only really seen Spice and Wolf.

        • Emma says:

          I was on and off anime in 2008 and 2009 sometimes, I know 2010 winter can be criticized yes but it was around then with heartcatch and wagnaria I started getting alot more open again with less serious shows.

  6. Spike says:

    “So yes. I’m not saying anime is dying. I’m saying anime is in dire need of a new business model. The current one is fifteen years old now, and the lack of innovation is starting to hurt. The industry thankfully isn’t as far south as the gaming industry is, however something needs to happen. Be bold! Be creative! Screw conventions!”

    Actually, neither the gaming nor anime industries are in need of a new model. The current model is making them HEAPS AND HEAPS of money. 95% of the anime you praise to no end about creativity and story and such are complete flops financially.

    Like it or not, anime is not made for some random Dutch fan, its made for the loser otaku in Japan that wants Tits and Moe and preorders those blurays / dvds / collectibles long before you’ve even written a review of the first episode saying how shitty it is. That’s just how anime is, and probly always will be so there’s really no reason complain about it all the time. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the thought-provoking mature series as much as you – but anime just like all entertainment isn’t art, it’s a business. They’ll go where the money is.

    • Miranna says:

      This

      The anime industry isn’t dying, far from it

      It is making insane money, so why should they change?

      The day moeblobs and fujoshows stop selling, maybe they will reevaluate, but for now…

      • Juno says:

        I think people are suggesting that the “heart” of anime is “dying.” That is, things are becoming more and more like each other and even innovative stuff is losing its appeal and originality. At least, that’s the claim.

        It may be hard, now that it’s a mass-produced thing, but no matter what sells and who makes money, one thing about anime will very likely never change: The creators are still artists.

        And as long as artists are a part of the industry, its creative flow will not completely cease. Don’t underestimate the vast imagination and intelligence of artists. They’ll prove you wrong later. =P

        Case in point: Even if shows have gotten overall stale, there have still been a TON of gems in recent years. At least, enough for me to stay up to date with them without falling behind, despite my busy life schedule. I can deal with that. =P

        • Spike says:

          But as I’ve said, most of the things we’ve considered ‘gems’ have been commercial flops – very few are also successful. Heck look at Shin Seki Yori. That barely got any dvd sales and it was AOTY on many sites. Same with Uchuu Kyoudai. Keep making ‘art’ and you’ll find yourself ‘retired’ pretty quick.

          I’d contend that anime was never overtly ‘original’ it’s always been pretty much the same basic plots and settings since the 1970s, it’s just that the West discovered it pretty late and it’s pretty different from what we have here. But if you look at MOST anime from 80s and 90s they aren’t all that different from the 00s just nostalgia and anti-moe sentiment clouding people’s judgement.

          • Jalapeno Bagel says:

            ^ agreed. Looking over this list, I would even argue that anime has largely stayed the same in terms of “creativity” and “boldness.” Because there are always anime that were “creative and bold” just like there are always anime that aren’t. Even if it may not seem equal from this list, that’s because some series got your approval label, but not others. ultimately, these observations don’t have anything to do with the actual business model; there’s a list of BD sales floating around that show that the number of recent shows on top sales positions is higher than older. What this list is saying is you’re getting bored of anime and the genres you currently prefer are not coming up as frequently as others.

    • Ellixus says:

      Precisely what I was thinking…

      I’ve been watching anime for more than 15 years and they’re still using the same set of formulae… if anything, what has changed are the tastes of people, the cultural background, and the production media…

      In any case, although I’ve been watching anime all these years, if I had to put at a list of the good ones right now, I could probably name 15, 20 at most… but 7 years ago it was certainly longer…

      So, most likely what has changed it’s your perception, so the things that 7 years ago would have seemed fresh and original, now are simply average or worst…

  7. Emma says:

    I can see the business and money bit , yet alas I am disappointed , sorely so that certain shows don’t catch on as much financially, but oh well I’m grateful to have some of these at least rather than none at all =<

  8. kero says:

    Thanks for this post, what a trip down memory lane. I’ve never really followed seasons, so didn’t think of it that way before until I started reading your blog posts… come to think of it, I’m not even sure how I picked my anime.. I guess hearing what other people thought were good and going with that.

  9. fedek says:

    The problem is that MONEY moves the industry.

    Sadly it works that way.

    I admire for example, Bee Train and Hyuge Mono, that thing is the less profitable thing ever.

    And is almost 3 cours, that was love for the art.

    But is not that easy :(

  10. Arno says:

    Masterful post, really.

    I still have a weakness for Mahoraba for its narrative consistency, and another show which I don’t remember the name : it was about a guy who returns to Hokkaido and there is a fox girl and a miracle at the end. It just found the winter poetry fantastic, and the main boy although having a harem was not a total idiot.

    But as far as harem is concerned I have fond memories of the Kouta character in Kanokon : he was so stupid and powerless it became actually very good comedy.

    Of course Ghost In The Shell was a few steps above the others artistically. Spice Wolf and Moyashimon almost brought tears to my eyes, seeing there was a country where you could produce educated animes for the young, whereas in Europe it is no longer possible.

  11. The best way to foster change and innovation is to buy shows that innovate. Gatchaman Crowds got a sequel about 1 month after I preordered the BD box; while that’s more happy coincidence than anything, it’s a fact that if everybody who read this post bought one show a year via amazon Japan, we’d see a very different genre spread as the years went by. As other comments have pointed out, anime is an industry built around the people who buy it consistently.

    Also, it seems a bit vague to define an era that goes from 2006-2009, but also includes 2011-2012. It takes some credence away from the idea that there’s some definitive shift in the industry that goes beyond normal fluctuations around the mean if the era of decline isn’t precisely defined by anything other than anecdotal evidence.

    • Jalapeno Bagel says:

      Of course the genre spread would be different if people bought vastly different genres from the current mainstream. But that doesn’t mean those genres are “innovative” and would cause some sort of paradigm shift as the connotation suggests. It just means the genre spread would adjust to one you (the reader of that post) would prefer. Which is already the state we’re in now (the root cause is that this genre spread is preferred, not necessarily that fans of “innovative” series are being pennypinchers).

  12. Perry Tanko says:

    Wow it really Has been 14 years hasn’t it?
    GREAT! so many good series have gone by and many more to come.

  13. Progeusz says:

    >Kotoura good
    >AKB not interesting
    >Amnesia having promising first episode
    >Mangirl being set in school (all of characters are adults and school isn’t shown you moron)
    >Sasami being set in school (Do you have brain problems? This is a show about NEET, it can’t be set in school by definition. Maybe 3% of it was actually in school)
    >Rinne no Lagrange, Mouretsu Pirates and Aquarion Evol being ambitious sci-fi
    >especially RnL and Aquarion being ambitious sci-fi
    >Another being anything but an unintended comedy
    Sorry, I can’t read this load of crap anymore.

  14. jstorming says:

    Good post! I see the increase of anime offerings as mostly positive thing-the anime industry’s growing and more shows are being produced. Marketing and money is always going to push big studio projects to err on the more conservative side. It’s not too different from traditional book publishing, where the book market is dominated by an elitist few. The competition’s fiercer but originality can boost a little known show high above the crowd if it’s top notch.

    tl;dr There will always be a lot of bad or mediocre anime, but good shows will get noticed, thanks to diligent, hardcore fans to spread the word.

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Anonymous1637770
Also it can be tricky selecting a season sequel since some old series had like 50 to 100 episodes, what counted as a season then?
Anonymous1637770
@Kaiser-Eoghan - It's more common in videogames (especially Capcom) than in other mediums. Megaman 2, RE 2, Street Fighter 2, Dino Crisis 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, etc.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually in a rarity, a sequel season is better than the first.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which makes my enjoyment of sangatsu so strange.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I generally do not like game/sports orientated shows.
Kaiser-Eoghan
That you slightlySuper-erMario and superwooper!
Kaiser-Eoghan
And my reaction to the show is such, that I enjoyed it enough to make such a huge pot about it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also I want Akari to be my mom and Hina is adorable without being annoyingly so and Kana Hanazawa is doing a good job voicing her.

And whoever said it is right, the op/ed songs are worth listening to, for once I’m not skipping them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
At this point it feels as if by the end of the series I’ll come off it thinking that I don’t want to say goodbye to these characters.
I don’t think as of just yet it complete lives up to honey and clovers legacy though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never cared about Harunobu initially, but recent episodes have changed this.
Dull parts of the manga are easier to get through for me in the anime due to Shaft elevating the material with one of the better uses of their visual gimmicks.
Giving the series another chance, even though I won’t fully embrace the humour, it does now and then manage to make me laugh a little.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The bullying arc centering on Hina and the shows treatment of it is better than most anime bullying stories and has provided the most emotionally rewarding aspect of the show.
Characters that are assholes like Kyouko’s boyfriend, Kyouko herself I’m finding somewhat more sympathetic and want to see more to their personal drama.
Kaiser-Eoghan
However I do genuinely think that the series does a good job of allowing dramatic moments to creep up on the viewer, that early scene of Hina crying over her mother, Rei’s family flashbacks, Akari’s concerns about Hina/the stuff with her dad, all the scenes with Kyouko do carry an effective and solid dramatic weight to them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel it starts very strong, making a great first impression, then kind of has these dull moments that make it sort of a slog at times to get through, unfortunately I have no interest in chess/shougi and no knowledge the show tries to give me is going to stick or allow me to embrace that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Through jumping back and forth between the anime and manga, I can say I have no caught up to where I will now watch March comes like a lion on a weekly basis.
Anonymous1636224
The blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki
Anonymous1636224
Mmmmmm the suffering of all those innocent people feeding his God boner, this is why I love Inuyashiki
Lenlo
Oh yeah, thats not a knock against it. Just noting they dont *need* much animation
SuperMario
Well, the nature of Mahoutsukai is slow-burned, so it makes sense they focus more on static, quiet moments
Lenlo
Was that blade 2022 thing supposed to be an example? Because I wasnt a fan. It was stylish sure, but difficult to follow.
Lenlo
Maho is a good looking show, I wouldnt call it a great animated show.
Lenlo
The issue for me is, theres just not alot being animated most of the time. Usually its a pretty slow moving anime, so most of its time is talking and still shots. It doesnt need alot of animation, so it doesnt have it.
Lenlo
@Niel, I think Mahoutsukai can have good animation when it wants to. Like the water viel in episode 10 looked good (Though im not sure how much of that was after effects)
Anonymous1635607
uhhh creepy
Anonymous1635589
the blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki so much
Amagi
I think the security is the same as here, it's just that Japanese people are less likely to rip stuff (correct me if I am wrong). It seems like ripped anime, manga and so on are basically always uploaded by Americans, Chinese people or someone else.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised heavens feel was camripped I thought security in japanese theatres was stronger.
Amagi
Yeah it's also screening in Germany, I will watch it in February, together with Heaven's Feel, Mutafukaz, Kimikoe and a few others.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*on Europa cinema
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nanoha new film to screen next February in the US, come in Europa license it for over here dammit....
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did have some down moments though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I guess contrasting Luke with his old self goes some way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Saw the preview screening of the new star wars, still feel the new trilogy stands inbetween the originals and prequels, fufills its duty as a *** star blockbuster , some genuinely hilarious high camp moments, awful tokenism, Snoke is a shit villain, but two scenes with Luke actually have a pathos to them and I liked the chase/action scenes when they happened. Nobody cares about the acting/dialogue
AidanAK47
But there are times when it goes way too far and you can barely make out what is even supposed to be happening. Or characters go so off model that they are unrecognizable. It can be immersion breaking. Much like uncanny CGI.
AidanAK47
@Niel, I do agree that it's annoying to see people complain about animation when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Like those inbetween frame screenshot people. But I will say I appreciate on model characters more so than chaotic movement. When the off model stuff suits the tone of the scene like that blade runner part, then it's fine.
niel
I also don't want to see someone imply visual=animation for the hundredth time. Are people really that ignorant of the technical/artistic aspect of the media they consumed?
niel
It just depends on what works best in given scene and the aesthetic they want to go for. People can complain all they want about off-model stuff, but if they really only want that the they won't be getting nearly as much of those impactful scenes as there are now. So many of the ways people complain about it is really irking to me.
niel
normal/low action scenes is different from being on-model during the action sequences and just the ones that need some extra impact in general. https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ?t=6m45s
niel
But that depends on the situation though. And I'd argue that being consistent and on-model during
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter/Niello/Mario: Ideally I want it both ways, fluid animation AND consistent model visuals, all the while never sacrificing choreography.
SuperMario
But really, who am I to say. I'm the dude who prefer beautiful shot composition myself
SuperMario
The same can be said with Shinkai's movies since he always prefers static, beautiful shot that people tend to overlook that his animation is quite poorly handled
Vonter
You're right, but art direction does alleviate limited animation, I mean the old Berserk anime, kinda has a lot of slideshow moments. MahoYome has nice backgrounds, and despite the samey faces, at the very least doesn't come from the same mold as other series. Still cutting corners with chibi segments is was a mistake.
SuperWooper
Is it any wonder that people prefer things to be static/on-model? They want to see characters who look consistent and familiar so they can relate to them.
Nie
MahoYome being the biggest offender of people getting triggered to any kind of statement about the show's animation not being good. And it's absurd because the show's animation really isn't great at all. It's good with distracting people with pretty pictures, but animation-wise it's still mediocre.
Nie
@SuperMario: Not much. Just stuff like "Art is part of the animation weather it's beautiful backgrounds or just amazing looking characters. It's not all about how they move. If it was, CG would be considered great animation" multiple times. I've just been finding myself being replied with these kinds of comment non-stop since the start of the season.
SuperMario
@Niello: What happened exactly, if you don't me asking?
Nielllo
If I hear someone says AMB has good animation one more tie I might actually lose it. It's amazing how people who apparently know nothing about it try to defend this and other people who don't know anything are actually supporting the guy.
Niello
So with Fate Apocrypha episode 22 out, I'm just now learning that people think webgen style is horrible and they prefer static scenes with pretty visual over actual quality animation. WTF. I can't comprehend this. Are casual people who watch animation in general really that oblivious to the art they have been watching?
Lenlo
Berserks Dynasty Warriors style game looked better. Also, Mahoutsukai should be up tonight/tomorrow. Turns out, Christmas is a busy time of year at this job.
Amagi
*worse
Amagi
Especially when you consider how good CGI can be by now, look at Houseki or Kado. But Berserk was the worst thing I saw in years, many scenes felt worst than sequences of PSX games
Amagi
@SuperMario: Same. I love Kon and also consider Paprika's OST as the best. @Lenlo: Me too. I honestly even enjoyed the movies but the new series was atrocious
Lenlo
HIRASAWAAAA! HAAAAAI YOOOOO.
I miss the 90s Berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was also quite fond of his soundtracks for Berserk. AIIIIIYE FORCES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
SuperMario
@Amagi: I'm a big fan of Kon so I've watched everything from his. Even bought a book about his works. About the soundtrack, I listened to them as well but not regularly, compare to pprika OST which I downloaded and listen to a lot
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although not completely a manga, Usagi yojimbo also has an anthro character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Millennium actress is partially inspired by the actress Setsuko Hara.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: The anthro-animal manga is even a topseller as far as I know. Haven't looked into it yet, though. Maybe I will do so.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I am still hoping Dream Machine will happen some day. Kon died believing it would happen
Amagi
@SuperMario: Have you tried the other Kon movies like Millennium Actress once? Thought they were really good and Hirasawa is responsible for the OST there too. Or Paranoia Agent which was (IMO) very good as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nttSKBJ38k (OP)
Niello
Eoghan: Enjoy... ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't read this, its very strange to see a manga about full anthro animal characters: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Beastars
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
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