Posted by psgels on 9 January 2014 with categories: Top 10 Anime

Over the years, even when I just started blogging, I’ve seen enough people get tired of anime, claiming that anime in the past used to be so much better. I remember that I kindof saw their point, however there were plenty of awesome series to keep me watching. However, after the current state of the season so far, I really do long for the anime of the past, and they seemed so much more diverse.

However, the big trap with these statements is to over-glorify the past. “Yeah, the past used to be so much better, in my days blah blah”, so you need to be careful with these kinds of statements: you forget the boring parts and only remember the things that stood out. So because of that I decided to take a good look back at the past winter seasons. I’ll rank all of them, but I’ll talk about them in chronological order. For each picture, I’ll use a picture of the series that turned out to be the best, by the standards I hold today.

Once this season has ended, if I feel motivated enough, I’ll also include it in this list.

Winter 2013


This was a really bad season. The only remotely good non-sequel show to come out of it was Kotoura-san. It had a very strong first episode for a school series, and managed to keep it up for 1 cour. Beyond that, the obvious stand-out was a sequel: Chihayafuru, which admittedly was just fantastic. AKB0048 unfortunately was not as interesting as I hoped it to be, and Amnesia and Tamako Market had promising first episodes, only to crash down horribly. Apart from that, the school setting was again very prevalent (Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai, Mangirl, Sasami@Ganbaranai). Lots of series looked the same, but there also was some historical fantasy here and there (Maoyuu, The Hakkenden, Senran Kagura). Out of around 31 series, I only found three of them actually worth watching.
Rank: #11

Winter 2012


This was a season in which suddenly there were three ambitious science fiction series airing at the same time: Rinne no Lagrange, Mouretsu Pirates and Aquarion Evol. Out of those, only Rinne ended up not fulfilling its promise, but still it wasn’t bad. On top of that there was a solid horror-series with Another, and three really solid comedies in the form of Poyopoyo Kansatsu Nikki, Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou and the incredibly random second season of Tantei Opera Milky Holmes. Natsume Yuujinchou came with its amazing fourth season that gave a ton of depth into the people around him. So yes, I would say that this was a very good season, with a pretty decent variety as well. Aside from mecha and comedy, there also was slice of life, sports, fantasy and romance. I would call this a very well rounded season.
Rank: #7

Winter 2011


This season stood out due to three absolutely amazing series: Level E, Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica and Hourou Musuko. All three together covered the entire spectrum: one was a brilliant comedy, another brilliantly deconstructed the mahou shoujo genre, and another was a brilliant look into what it is to be a transgender. These three alone made this season worth watching, and on top of that we also get a pretty decent closure to Kimi ni Todoke, a “so bad it’s good”-comedy Mitsudomoe Zouryouchuu, and Gosick, an adventure series which started out questionably, but ended beautifully. The downside to this season was that there were a lot of stinkers. Fractale is the most notable for having a wonderful premise, only to completely ignore it, but Yumekui Merry had the same fate: great premise and execution, but just cut off in the middle leaving nothing resolved. Dragon Crisis just went worse as it went along, and Kore wa Zombie Desu Ka also failed to stay funny. Not to mention the epically bad Rio Rainbow Gate, Infinite Stratos and another Oniichan series. A season of huge ups and huge downs.
Rank: #6

Winter 2010


Oh boy, I remember how this was a stinker when it came along. However, looking back on it, it’s not the worst, it’s better than the Winter of 2013, however that season was backed up by a very strong Autumn season, while this one… wasn’t. So we were stuck with Durarara, a series which thankfully had a fantastic first half, only to have a much less interesting second half later on. The one series that stood out was Heartcatch Precure, the series that showed how much you can do with the mahou shoujo formula. Katanagatari also was interesting and fresh with its wordplay, but the problem with these series was that they paid out very slowly: Heartcatch Precure only started in February and had 50 episodes, and Katanagatari only aired once a month. Apart from that there were series that had interesting premises and were nice to watch, but never really were meant for greatness, like Cobra The Animation, a revival of the classic TV-series, and Sora no Oto, which at the very least had a very intriguing setting (really rushed ending though!). However, this also was the season in which the barriers of good taste got lowered significantly: Seikon no Qwaser was pretty much borderline porn. With a measly 17 series total that aired, things did not look good for anime at the time. However, things recovered afterwards.
Rank: #10

Winter 2009


Winter 2009 was weird. It was stunning, completely stunning. Birdy the Mighty Decode still stands in my top 10 because of it. White Album was incredibly annoying, but ultimately worth it and a unique romance. Ride Back started out rather weird, but it turned out to be a pretty unique mecha series about an adult female who drove this cross between a motorcycle and a robot. Maria-sama ga Miteru surpassed itself, Shikabane Hime was weird, but ultimately awesome to watch, and Hajime no Ippo also completely surpassed itself. It was glorious, and yet there were so many annoyances at the same time with how the Tower of Druaga failed to live up to its hype, Natsume Yuujinchou’s second season was not as strong as the first, Koukaku no Regios didn’t go anywhere, Kurokami failed to deliver, and Munto turned out to be nothing more than a blatant recap. I also remember complaining about how there were way too many sequels this season. And true, the amount of sequels at the very least has never been as overwhelming as in this season. 2009 was definitely the year with the most conflicting feelings.
Rank: #3

Winter 2008


This season was one of the best winter seasons ever. The reason was the sheer quantity of amazing series that aired. Porphy no Nagai Tabi is a series that today can not be made: 52 episodes dedicated to a children’s novel, coupled with stunning background art. Gunslinger Girl’s sequel was very controversial due to the style change, but I loved it. Shigofumi had an awesome concept of a girl who brought back letters from the dead, and True Tears is one of those unique romances in which you never really know what the characters were thinking. Hakaba Kitarou seamlessly combined horror with comedy, Aria the Origination was an amazing conclusion to the Aria franchise and Spice and Wolf was a really intelligent look at medieval economics with excellent characters. THIS. This is what a winter season should be. There was something for everyone, many risks were taken and many series delivered in well thought-out ways. There were a few disappointments, but none of them were really big disappointments. Just a few series that burned out in their second halves (Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei and Sisters of Wellber 2), and the obviously bad series like Rosario to Vampire were in a minority and could be easily avoided.
Rank: #1

Winter 2007


The 2007 season had much less quantity. However, what it lacked there, it made up for in quality as it premiered two series that would grow out to be absolute classics: Les Miserables and Nodame Cantabile. This definitely was a season for the people into classic literature or music. No other season has ever been able to deliver two of these masterpieces at the same time. If you look at the rest of the season, the you’ll see lots of action: generic action series or series about people with powers fighting each other, that never really stood out. Rocket Girls was nice, and Master of Epic also was this unique little comedy series. There also was slice of life, sports. That’s the big difference between this season’s lackluster series: in 2014, everything looks like each other. In 2007, things were uninteresting, but at least they were different.
Rank: #5

Winter 2006


This was the first winter season I actively followed. And what a season it turned out to be: Ayakashi ~ Japanese Classic Horror, Ergo Proxy and Rescue Wings together. All incredible series, aimed at adults, yet all completely different. Beyond that there was a really solid romance series situated in a hospital with HanTsuki, Magikano was hilarious back when Seiji Kishi was still good. Plus, Nerima Daikon Brothers: an actual animated musical that never got fully subbed, yet was really fun to watch. There may not be as many series here, but here is the thing with this season: all these six series were incredibly well thought out. They had some really interesting ideas and they took their risks, instead of rehashing the most popular thing around. All of these series set out to challenge the status quo and do something never done before. Even Magikano, as its brand of humour was still fresh back then.
Rank: #4

Winter 2005


Here we get to the point where I haven’t seen every series that came out, so my view of this season has also a few impressions here and there. This was an average season, that delivered two really strong short series: Air and Starship Operators. Romance and space opera. Beyond that there was the short comedy Gag Manga Biyori. Beyond that, there’s lots of romance, mecha and kiddie shows. I mean things like Mahou Sensei Negima, Peach Girl, Jinki Extend: I saw small fragments of them but none of them really looked like they had potential. This actually reminds me a lot of the season we’re currently in.
Rank: #8

Winter 2004


This is a weird season since there were two utter classics that aired with strange schedules: Ghost in the Shell’s second season aired two episodes at the start of each month, and Paranoia Agent started in february. Especially Paranoia Agent was absolutely fantastic in every single way. But yeah, this season absolutely rocked. One of the best action series out there in the form of Jubei-chan 2 also was shown here. That’s three completely amazing shows in one winter-season, and the rest of the season, even the not interesting ones, are incredibly varied. There are fanservice series, but plenty of historical ones, there is a comedy, there are series aimed at a young audience, and old audience, plenty of series that took risks and series that just stayed with the status quo. The balance is perfect here.
Rank: #2

Winter 2003


The top three series this season were all really inspired: The Big O’s second season really knew how to play with the mecha genre, Ashita no Nadja was a really creative shoujo adventure that we nowadays never get to see anymore, and Wolf’s Rain, although the execution left a bit to be desired here and there, really stood out with how its main cast consisted out of wolves, and I absolutely cannot fault its setting, which was incredibly imaginative. Beyond that though, this was a small season. Most of the other shows were just harmless fluff or just plain bad series. Oh, and Licensed by Royal, which I haven’t seen but admittedly does look interesting.
Rank: #9

Winter 2002


One thing to note is that ten years ago, the seasons were much smaller. This season, ignoring the kiddie shows, had about 16 anime. The best of which was RahXephon, which was an intelligent mecha series, definitely. Also good were the adventure series Patapata Hikousen no Bouken for the younger audience, and Fullmetal Panic, for the older audience. Nothing standout like in previous years though. Kanon also premiered, starting the trend of key adaptations, and Onegai Teacher aired as well. Nothing much stands out, but there are lots of cute girls, along with generic action series in which the enemies are strange supernatural beings.
Rank: #12

Winter 2001


Here we get to the part where the winter season was pretty much insignificant. The only series that are noteworthy are Arjuna (a nature series, admittedly very creative) and Tales of Eternia. Ojamajo Doremi also had one of its seasons here, but apart from that… there was hardly anything. That I’ve seen, at least. The thing is that there are surprisingly many series that feature adults as their protagonists. There are 14 series in total, and while most of them indeed do look uninteresting to me, they don’t suffer from the problem of not trying out different things.
Rank: #14

Winter 2000


Only 9 series aired in total. 9. That’s nothing. One series stood out from the bunch: Boogiepop Phantom. Fantastic show if you want to work hard in order to understand a series. Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran was also a very solid period piece. Beyond that though were mostly kiddie shows (we saw Mushrambo and Mon Colle Knights on Dutch TV, actually), but yeah, it’s apparent that producers at this age didn’t see much into winter seasons, and any series airing there is a mere coincidence. I’ll stop my overview here then.
Rank: #13

Conclusion

So, what did I conclude from this? Well, globally, these years can be divided into three periods. In the first period, until about 2005: relatively few series were released, and among them were two or three series that really stood out as amazing series, only 2004 had more and falls more in the period that came afterwards. The rest of the series were meh, however they were varied and were different from each other.

The second period is what I’d like to call the golden age of anime. It lasted from 2006 to 2009, including 2004 (and 2011 and 2012, I guess). The season size got much larger, and with that the amount of amazing series also increased. Every season had so many series that worthwhile. There was something for everyone and so many series came up with interesting ideas, rock solid executions. There were meh series, and series that didn’t deliver, but even amongst them was enough good stuff and things were varied.

And the third period started in 2010. Globally, things returned to having two or three really standout, really good series, with the rest not really being remarkable. But here’s the kicker: as opposed to the first period, the amount of series per season still is huge. There are as many series as in period two, and most likely even more! The result is that while a decade ago, you had the same amount of standout series, this time they’re surrounded by heaps and heaps of generic series that on top of that all look the same and don’t try to be anything new, different or fresh. You get piles of series that are all trying to fit into the same niche and therefore all just end up watering each other down due to the huge amount of competition.

Because of this, the stakes to stand out get higher, so more money is poured into the animation budget. The financial risk is higher, so in terms of storytelling you can’t take many risks either, so people opt for safe scriptwriters and series with interesting ideas are really hard to greenlight. Because of how everything is overcrowded, series that have certain elements in them tend to sell more, so every series needs to have those elements in them in order to also compete for sales. Even the good ones, leading to the excessive amounts of fanservice you see in nearly every show today. I mean, it cannot be a coincidence that Kill la Kill and Space Dandy, the TWO series that set out to try something new and different, both being ended up so crass at the same time.

So yes. I’m not saying anime is dying. I’m saying anime is in dire need of a new business model. The current one is fifteen years old now, and the lack of innovation is starting to hurt. The industry thankfully isn’t as far south as the gaming industry is, however something needs to happen. Be bold! Be creative! Screw conventions!

32 Responses

  1. Kurini says:

    It was a good read! It reminded me of some series I wanted to try and I added some series I would like to watch!
    I hope you’ll make one for spring, summer and fall too! :D

  2. Zadown says:

    “The industry thankfully isn’t as far south as the gaming industry is, however something needs to happen.”

    Gaming is both stale at the high end and very interesting and constantly changing at the indie scale of things with Kickstarter providing funds for both nostalgic and innovative enterprises. But you can’t (at least not yet) create impressive anime with tiny indie teams so you only get the stale high end side of things compared to gaming industry. Silly comment all in all, IMO. :P

    • Matthew I says:

      Yeah, video games are entering an age where the ease of creation and the number of people creating means that there is never going to be a cease to the flow of great games. There’s thousands of games released a DAY, and there are always people who play enough to sift through the crap for everyone else! And the ‘video game industry’ is basically unkillable, because theyre not tied to any business model. AAA games are not really my thing.

      Anime, on the other hand, could fall dead any day, its position is so precarious

    • Scruffy says:

      Makoto Shinkai may disagree with you about the possibility of indie Anime. He pretty much created ‘Voices of a Distant Star’ on his Mac at home and him and his then GF initially provided the voices. It’s true it was just an OVA but that is one way that Anime is innovating. We also have other kickstarter funded OVA’s such as Little Witch Academia.

    • notintheface11 says:

      Yes, this comment is simply ignorant. Games are just about as good as they’ve ever been. Focusing on the Call of Duty’s and AAA EA titles is akin to defining anime by whatever big KyoAni fanservice show is on at the moment. Anime didn’t have the best year in 2013 but that doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with it or even its business model. Stuff that makes money tends to do well, and you just have to embrace that while continuing to look for the good in the medium.

  3. kyurenjo says:

    This is an amazing read. Wow.

    Looking forward to Spring, Summer, and Fall version.

  4. KaZuHiRo says:

    Here are the (most) complete list of anime that aired in Winter

    2000
    Daa! Daa! Daa!
    Ojamajo Doremi #
    Shinzo (Mushrambo)
    Miami Guns
    The Super Milk-chan Show
    Kazemakase Tsukikage Ran
    Mon Colle Knights
    Pilot Candidate (Megami Kouhousei)
    Boogiepop Phantom

    2001
    Salaryman Kintaro
    Mo~tto! Ojamajo Doremi
    Sushi Azarashi
    Sadamitsu the Destroyer
    Earth Defense Family
    Arjuna
    Beyblade
    Baki the Grappler
    Tales of Eternia
    Zoids/Zero

    2002 (suddenly got bigger)
    MegaMan NT Warrior
    Arcade Gamer Fubuki
    Kick Off
    Ojamajo Doremi Dokkaan!
    Galaxy Angel Z
    Genma Wars
    Kanon 2002
    RahXephon
    Aquarian Age – Sign for Evolution
    Seven of Seve
    Ultimate Muscle
    Full Metal Panic!
    Beyblade: V-Force
    Mirage of Blaze
    Panyo Panyo Di Gi Charat
    Patapata Hikousen no Bouken
    *I didn’t include Gun Frontier since it aired in the last week of March

    2003
    Tenshi no Shippo Chu!
    Beast Fighter – The Apocalypse
    Digi-girl Pop!
    Gunparade March
    Ashita no Nadja
    Crush Gear Nitro
    Someday’s Dreamers (Mahou Tsukai ni Taisetsuna Koto)
    Shutsugeki! Machine Robo Rescue
    .hack//Legend Of The Twilight (Hack Udeden)
    L/R: Licensed by Royalty
    Nanaka 6/17
    Wolf’s Rain
    Ga-Ra-Ku-Ta: Mr. Stain on Junk Alley
    Beyblade G Revolution
    Lime-iro Senkitan (Raimuiro Senkitan)
    Stratos 4
    Mouse

    2004 (this is probably my favorite)
    Hit o Nerae!
    Yugo the Negotiator
    Paranoia Agent
    Kaiketsu Zorori
    Futari wa Pretty Cure
    Diamond Daydreams
    Daphne in the Brilliant Blue
    Burn-Up Scramble
    The Cosmopolitan Prayers
    Monkey Turn
    Transformers: Energon
    Area 88
    Gravion Zwei
    Yumeria
    Jubei-Chan 2: The Counterattack of Siberia Yagyuu
    Maria-sama ga Miteru
    Gokusen
    B-Legend! Battle Bedaman
    Mezzo DSA
    Misaki Chronicles (Divergence Eve 2)
    Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig

    2005
    Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan
    Strawberry Marshmallow
    La Corda D’Oro – primo passo
    Gag Manga Biyori
    Futari wa Pretty Cure Max Heart
    Buzzer Beater
    D.I.C.E.
    Damekko Doubutsu
    H2: Kimi to Ita Hibi
    Battle B-Daman: Fire Spirits
    Ultimate Girls
    Mahoraba ~Heartful Days~
    Sukisyo
    Transformers: Cybertron
    Gallery Fake
    Pandalian
    Peach Girl
    Ah! My Goddess
    Negima!
    Starship Operators
    Jinki:Extend
    Xenosaga: The Animation
    Lime-iro Ryuukitan X
    Magical Canan

    2006
    Shinigami no Ballad
    Ergo Proxy
    Papillon Rose
    Futari wa Precure Splash Star
    Binchou-tan
    REC
    Meine Liebe Wieder
    Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora
    Ayakashi – Samurai Horror Tales
    Kashimashi – Girl Meets Girl
    Funny Pets
    Nerima Daikon Brothers
    Yomigaeru Sora -Rescue Wings-
    Bakkyuu Hit! Crash Bedaman
    Kage kara Mamoru!
    Tactical Roar
    Wan Wan Serebu Soreyuke! Tetsunoshin
    Lemon Angel Project
    Rakugo Tennyo Oyui
    Amaenaide yo!! Katsu!!
    Kinnikuman Nisei – Ultimate Muscle 2
    Kagihime Monogatari – Eikyuu Alice Rondo
    Magikano

    2007
    Romeo × Juliet
    Ikki-Tousen: Dragon Destiny
    Rocket Girls
    Juusou Kikou Dancouga Nova
    Naruto Shippuuden
    Dinosaur King
    Yes! Precure 5
    Moonlight Mile
    Reideen
    Tokyo Majin Gakuen Kenpucho: Tou
    GR -Giant Robo-
    Getsumen to Heiki Mina
    Nodame Cantabile
    Venus Versus Virus
    Hidamari Sketch
    Les Misérables Shoujo Cosette
    Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight!
    Master of Epic
    Shuffle! Memories
    Deltora Quest
    Himawari Too!!
    Koisuru Tenshi Angelique – Kagayaki no Ashita
    Kyoushiro to Towa no Sora (Shattered Angels)
    Saint October
    Afro Samurai

    2008
    Gag Manga Biyori 3
    Bus Gamer
    Yes! Precure 5 GoGo!
    Kodai Ouja Kyouryuu King D-Kids Adventure: Yokuryuu Densetsu
    Daughters of Mnemosyne
    On-chan
    Moegaku*5
    Yatterman
    Hakaba Kitaro
    Noramimi
    Spice and Wolf
    Aria the Origination
    Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino
    Porfy no Nagai Tabi
    Minami-ke: Okawari
    Persona -Trinity Soul-
    Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
    Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de
    Shigofumi – Letters from the Departed
    Zenryoku Usagi
    Hatenkou Yuugi
    True Tears
    Rosario + Vampire
    H2O ~Footprints in the Sand~
    Sisters of Wellber Zwei

    2009
    Fresh Pretty Cure
    Hetalia – Axis Powers
    Genji Monogatari Sennenki
    Keihin Kazoku
    Sakuran Boy DT
    Yume o Kanaeru Zou
    Sora o Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai (Munto)
    Slayers Evolution-R
    Rideback
    Kemono no Souja Erin
    Chrome Shelled Regios
    Examurai Sengoku
    Kupuu~!! Mamegoma!
    Birdy the Mighty Decode:02
    Asu no Yoichi!
    The Tower of Druaga: the Sword of Uruk
    Hajime no Ippo: New Challenger
    Viper’s Creed
    Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou
    Sora wo Kakeru Shoujo
    Minami-ke: Okaeri
    Butazuka
    White Album
    Kotonakare Hero Gingerman
    Maria-sama ga Miteru (4th Season)
    Shikabane Hime: Kuro

    2010
    Wagnaria!!
    Heartcatch Precure!
    Chi-Sui Maru
    Katanagatari
    Nodame Cantabile: Finale
    Hanamaru Kindergarten
    Unko-san Junjou-ha
    Seikon no Qwaser
    Kaitou Reinya
    Durarara!!
    Dance in the Vampire Bund
    Ookamikakushi
    Hidamari Sketch × Hoshimittsu
    Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
    Omamori Himari
    Chu-Bra!!
    Sora no Woto
    Gag Manga Biyori+
    Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3: Owari Naki Unmei
    Cobra the Animation

    2011
    Mai no Mahou to Katei no Hi
    Bakugan: Mechtanium Surge
    Suite Precure
    Fractale
    Hourou Musuko
    DD Hokuto no Ken
    Dragon Crisis!
    Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?
    Level E
    Beelzebub
    Cardfight!! Vanguard
    Freezing
    Mitsudomoe Zouryouchuu!
    Oniichan no Koto Nanka Zenzen Suki Janain Dakara ne—!!
    Gosick
    Otona Joshi no Anime Time
    Wolverine
    Puella Magi Madoka Magica
    Yumekui Merry
    Infinite Stratos
    Kimi ni Todoke 2nd Season
    Rio – Rainbow Gate!

    2012
    Monsuno
    Smile Precure!
    Black Rock Shooter
    Danball Senki W
    Gokujou!
    Inu X Boku Secret Service
    Thermae Romae
    Papa no Iu Koto o Kikinasai!
    Another
    Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou
    Ano Natsu de Matteru
    Aquarion Evol
    Rinne no Lagrange
    Poyopoyo
    Mouretsu Pirates
    Brave10
    Zero no Tsukaima F
    Nisemonogatari
    Area no Kishi
    High School DxD
    Senki Zesshou Symphogear
    Amagami SS+
    Tantei Opera Milky Holmes Dai-Ni-Maku
    Kill Me Baby
    Recorder and Randsell
    The Prince of Tennis II
    Natsume Yuujinchou TV 4

    2013
    RDG: Red Data Girl
    Otona Joshi no Anime Time Season 2
    Dokidoki! Precure
    Chokkyuu Hyoudai Robot Anime
    Hetalia The Beautiful World
    Ganbare! Lulu Lolo – Tiny Twin Bears
    Beast Saga
    Cardfight!! Vanguard: Link Joker Hen
    Ganbare! Odenkun
    Chihayafuru 2
    Mondaiji Tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Soudesuyo?
    Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Next
    Kotoura-san
    Sasami-san@Ganbaranai
    Vividred Operation
    gdgd Fairies
    GJ Club
    Tamako Market
    Senyuu
    Amnesia
    The Unlimited -Hyoubu Kyousuke
    Bakumatsu Gijinden Roman
    Line Offline Salaryman
    Ishida to Asakura
    Love Live! School Idol Project
    Senran Kagura
    AKB0048 Next Stage
    D.C.III ~Da Capo III~
    Hakkenden: Eight Dogs of the East
    Minami-ke Tadaima
    Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru
    Cuticle Detective Inaba
    Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
    Ai Mai Mi
    Mangirl!
    Yama no Susume
    Heroes ~Legend of Battle Disks~

    2014 (To Watch for)
    Happiness Charge Precure!
    Inari, Konkon, Koi Iroha.
    Maken-Ki! Two
    Wizard Barristers: Benmashi Cecil
    Nisekoi
    Sekai Seifuku ~ Bouryaku no Zvezda
    Tesagure! Bukatsu-mono Encore
    No-Rin
    Wake Up, Girls!
    Go! Go! 575
    Hozuki no Reitetsu
    Magical Warfare
    Meitantei Rascal
    Pupa
    Sakura Trick
    Silver Spoon 2
    Strange+
    Z/X Ignition
    Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions! Ren
    Mikakunin de Shinkoukei
    Oneechan ga Kita
    Youkai Watch
    Hamatora
    Wooser no Sono Higurashi Kakusei-hen
    D-Fragments
    Koukaku Kidoutai Nyumon Arise
    SoniAni -Super Sonico the Animation-
    Toaru Hikuushi e no Koiuta
    Minna Atsumare! Falcom Gakuen
    Nobunaga The Fool
    Nobunagun
    Noragami
    Saki Zenkoku-hen
    Space Dandy
    Tonari no Seki-kun
    Witch Craft Works
    Future Card Buddyfight
    Saikin, Imouto no Yousu ga Chotto Okashiin Da Ga
    Robot Girls Z
    Seitokai Yakuindomo 2
    Buddy Complex

    And here is 1999 (which is probably the best winter season ever)
    Digimon Adventure
    Petshop of Horrors
    Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne
    Bomber Man & Bidaman Bakugaiden V
    Ojamajo Doremi
    Hatsumei Boy Kanipan (Gadget Boy)
    Beast Wars Neo
    Himiko-den
    Chiisana Kyojin Microman
    Space Pirate Mito
    Crest of the Stars

    • omo says:

      Thanks for this comment, it helps to compare that with what the main post is talking about. Granted it is missing a few things and has some OVAs and what not listed.

      As for me, 2008 was also an outstanding season but each year there were more interesting shows than before. I think on average 2008-2014 was way more interesting than 2000-2007 (golden age was not so golden IMO). I also agree 1999 was a surprisingly awesome year (by ratio).

    • KaZuHiRo says:

      I forgot to add Kurokami, Maria Holic and Akikan! in Winter 2009

  5. Tassia says:

    Please stop saying “to be a transgender”! I know you’re Dutch and I understand you having a bit of difficultly with English. I’m thinking your other transgender readers, such as Emma, probably also feel awkward reading that. Transgender is an adjective, not a noun. These are all correct: “I am a transgender person”, “I am a transsexual woman”, and “I am a trans girl”. I loved Hourou Musuko and was really emotionally into it- it’s an amazing series in general, though part of my joy for it was probably from the fact that I was trans and not out to even myself yet back when I was watching it 3 years ago and following your blog. I still feel so passionately for trans kids like Nitori and Takatsuki.

    • Emma says:

      @Tassia: Ha, oh my , I must say that although I do appreciate the thought I got more of a chuckle out of the odd phrasing in that sentence he wrote , heh I don’t feel all that bothered or offended. I felt autistic compelled at one point though to correct him jokingly when he mixed up the word transvestism with mtf transexuality. (But I’m not one for being a phrasing nazi! lol)
      I actually had the same experience as you with the show, I even went to rewatch it when I had more of an idea.

      I already popped my comments on the shoutbox about this post but I think reading this again I’ll add that putting in perspective winter seasons tend not to be as good as other seasons more often than not.

      • Tassia says:

        Yeah, I wasn’t really offended either. I have Asperger’s and that may contribute to me habitually wanting that corrected. And I so often see trans people on reddit correcting cis people’s messup on this grammar.

        I totally agree with your opinions on 2011. In 2008 I was only beginning to be seriously into anime and was almost entirely watching stuff life Miyazaki, Naruto, FMA, Code Geass, Azumanga Daioh, Great Teacher Onizuka, Girl Who Leapt Through Time, and 5 cm/s. Of what psgels mentioned in 2008 I’ve only really seen Spice and Wolf.

        • Emma says:

          I was on and off anime in 2008 and 2009 sometimes, I know 2010 winter can be criticized yes but it was around then with heartcatch and wagnaria I started getting alot more open again with less serious shows.

  6. Spike says:

    “So yes. I’m not saying anime is dying. I’m saying anime is in dire need of a new business model. The current one is fifteen years old now, and the lack of innovation is starting to hurt. The industry thankfully isn’t as far south as the gaming industry is, however something needs to happen. Be bold! Be creative! Screw conventions!”

    Actually, neither the gaming nor anime industries are in need of a new model. The current model is making them HEAPS AND HEAPS of money. 95% of the anime you praise to no end about creativity and story and such are complete flops financially.

    Like it or not, anime is not made for some random Dutch fan, its made for the loser otaku in Japan that wants Tits and Moe and preorders those blurays / dvds / collectibles long before you’ve even written a review of the first episode saying how shitty it is. That’s just how anime is, and probly always will be so there’s really no reason complain about it all the time. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the thought-provoking mature series as much as you – but anime just like all entertainment isn’t art, it’s a business. They’ll go where the money is.

    • Miranna says:

      This

      The anime industry isn’t dying, far from it

      It is making insane money, so why should they change?

      The day moeblobs and fujoshows stop selling, maybe they will reevaluate, but for now…

      • Juno says:

        I think people are suggesting that the “heart” of anime is “dying.” That is, things are becoming more and more like each other and even innovative stuff is losing its appeal and originality. At least, that’s the claim.

        It may be hard, now that it’s a mass-produced thing, but no matter what sells and who makes money, one thing about anime will very likely never change: The creators are still artists.

        And as long as artists are a part of the industry, its creative flow will not completely cease. Don’t underestimate the vast imagination and intelligence of artists. They’ll prove you wrong later. =P

        Case in point: Even if shows have gotten overall stale, there have still been a TON of gems in recent years. At least, enough for me to stay up to date with them without falling behind, despite my busy life schedule. I can deal with that. =P

        • Spike says:

          But as I’ve said, most of the things we’ve considered ‘gems’ have been commercial flops – very few are also successful. Heck look at Shin Seki Yori. That barely got any dvd sales and it was AOTY on many sites. Same with Uchuu Kyoudai. Keep making ‘art’ and you’ll find yourself ‘retired’ pretty quick.

          I’d contend that anime was never overtly ‘original’ it’s always been pretty much the same basic plots and settings since the 1970s, it’s just that the West discovered it pretty late and it’s pretty different from what we have here. But if you look at MOST anime from 80s and 90s they aren’t all that different from the 00s just nostalgia and anti-moe sentiment clouding people’s judgement.

          • Jalapeno Bagel says:

            ^ agreed. Looking over this list, I would even argue that anime has largely stayed the same in terms of “creativity” and “boldness.” Because there are always anime that were “creative and bold” just like there are always anime that aren’t. Even if it may not seem equal from this list, that’s because some series got your approval label, but not others. ultimately, these observations don’t have anything to do with the actual business model; there’s a list of BD sales floating around that show that the number of recent shows on top sales positions is higher than older. What this list is saying is you’re getting bored of anime and the genres you currently prefer are not coming up as frequently as others.

    • Ellixus says:

      Precisely what I was thinking…

      I’ve been watching anime for more than 15 years and they’re still using the same set of formulae… if anything, what has changed are the tastes of people, the cultural background, and the production media…

      In any case, although I’ve been watching anime all these years, if I had to put at a list of the good ones right now, I could probably name 15, 20 at most… but 7 years ago it was certainly longer…

      So, most likely what has changed it’s your perception, so the things that 7 years ago would have seemed fresh and original, now are simply average or worst…

  7. Emma says:

    I can see the business and money bit , yet alas I am disappointed , sorely so that certain shows don’t catch on as much financially, but oh well I’m grateful to have some of these at least rather than none at all =<

  8. kero says:

    Thanks for this post, what a trip down memory lane. I’ve never really followed seasons, so didn’t think of it that way before until I started reading your blog posts… come to think of it, I’m not even sure how I picked my anime.. I guess hearing what other people thought were good and going with that.

  9. fedek says:

    The problem is that MONEY moves the industry.

    Sadly it works that way.

    I admire for example, Bee Train and Hyuge Mono, that thing is the less profitable thing ever.

    And is almost 3 cours, that was love for the art.

    But is not that easy :(

  10. Arno says:

    Masterful post, really.

    I still have a weakness for Mahoraba for its narrative consistency, and another show which I don’t remember the name : it was about a guy who returns to Hokkaido and there is a fox girl and a miracle at the end. It just found the winter poetry fantastic, and the main boy although having a harem was not a total idiot.

    But as far as harem is concerned I have fond memories of the Kouta character in Kanokon : he was so stupid and powerless it became actually very good comedy.

    Of course Ghost In The Shell was a few steps above the others artistically. Spice Wolf and Moyashimon almost brought tears to my eyes, seeing there was a country where you could produce educated animes for the young, whereas in Europe it is no longer possible.

  11. The best way to foster change and innovation is to buy shows that innovate. Gatchaman Crowds got a sequel about 1 month after I preordered the BD box; while that’s more happy coincidence than anything, it’s a fact that if everybody who read this post bought one show a year via amazon Japan, we’d see a very different genre spread as the years went by. As other comments have pointed out, anime is an industry built around the people who buy it consistently.

    Also, it seems a bit vague to define an era that goes from 2006-2009, but also includes 2011-2012. It takes some credence away from the idea that there’s some definitive shift in the industry that goes beyond normal fluctuations around the mean if the era of decline isn’t precisely defined by anything other than anecdotal evidence.

    • Jalapeno Bagel says:

      Of course the genre spread would be different if people bought vastly different genres from the current mainstream. But that doesn’t mean those genres are “innovative” and would cause some sort of paradigm shift as the connotation suggests. It just means the genre spread would adjust to one you (the reader of that post) would prefer. Which is already the state we’re in now (the root cause is that this genre spread is preferred, not necessarily that fans of “innovative” series are being pennypinchers).

  12. Perry Tanko says:

    Wow it really Has been 14 years hasn’t it?
    GREAT! so many good series have gone by and many more to come.

  13. Progeusz says:

    >Kotoura good
    >AKB not interesting
    >Amnesia having promising first episode
    >Mangirl being set in school (all of characters are adults and school isn’t shown you moron)
    >Sasami being set in school (Do you have brain problems? This is a show about NEET, it can’t be set in school by definition. Maybe 3% of it was actually in school)
    >Rinne no Lagrange, Mouretsu Pirates and Aquarion Evol being ambitious sci-fi
    >especially RnL and Aquarion being ambitious sci-fi
    >Another being anything but an unintended comedy
    Sorry, I can’t read this load of crap anymore.

  14. jstorming says:

    Good post! I see the increase of anime offerings as mostly positive thing-the anime industry’s growing and more shows are being produced. Marketing and money is always going to push big studio projects to err on the more conservative side. It’s not too different from traditional book publishing, where the book market is dominated by an elitist few. The competition’s fiercer but originality can boost a little known show high above the crowd if it’s top notch.

    tl;dr There will always be a lot of bad or mediocre anime, but good shows will get noticed, thanks to diligent, hardcore fans to spread the word.

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Anonymous1218982
KT here: Next RE:Creators episode seems to be a gag episode. Not sure how I feel, though obviously the creators need a break.
SuperMario
yeah, usually 1 small arc = 2 to 3 episodes. We have 3 mini arc left so I would say about 6 episodes
AidanAK47
Actually from what I hear, there isn't enough material left in Owarimonogatari to make a full course. Seems like it's one volume with would equal 6 episodes at best.
AidanAK47
Like hell. There's about five more Monogataris to adapt. Anyway it's not that you are not getting it but rather instead of one cour it's going to be all aired within two days as specials. The runtime of the specials is up for debate but you are still getting it.
SuperMario
the loss of the FINAL one, you mean.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I wouldn't grin evilly about it but there's like over ten Monogatari animes. Kinda hard to be sad over the loss of one.
SuperMario
According to ANN, this new Owarimonogatari will be a special 2-day events, which honestly I don't know what that even means. Most of you might grin your evil grin right now but I'm crying inside with that news.
SuperMario
The LWA finale didn't do much for me sadly. Croi's roles as a main antagonist is just not good. And I feel like in the end I don't know much about Suzy or Lotte. I think the worse episode for me was the one right after the twist about why Akko can't perform magic, because it's as Aidan said
KT
Thus Little Witch Academia comes to an end. I will miss it. Despite the mistake IMHO of the Croix Arc, this was a good series, and the last episode went back to the very elements that made me love it at the start. It was a happy series, and gave me a warm fuzzy feeling in some hard times. I thank it for it. It could had been exceptional, but I guess they wanted to try something more.Ah well.
AidanAK47
Really glad they used that Scarborough fair song one last time before the finale. I really love that song.
Anonymous1215349
SukaSuka's finale was beautiful, a great way to end a great anime.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I guess the big question I have is, do the character interactions coupled with what assume will be some kind of tragedy element work together well enough to make the viewer care and invest in the characters?
AidanAK47
So that's the end of SukaSuka. Better than I thought it would be. Honestly didn't give it enough of a chance in my preview. As far as light novel adaptions go it's above average. Though it does still suffer from it's cliches. Nothing outstanding but a worthwhile watch nontheless.
Anonymous1214845
Have you seen Shonen Jump is making an international manga contest? https://medibang.com/jumpplus/entry/
SuperMario
@Lenlo: you know it when you see it. At first I didn't believe they jumped the shark, but based on the events after that twist, yep it has settled for something much cheaper imo.
Lenlo
For Bahamut, im still enjoying it and we have another cour to go. I think it, and the first Bahamut, are good shows. For Kado, im only on ep 4 so im very curious what shark gets jumped
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think given the pace I'll watch 1-2 or 2-3 episodes of re creators instead of once a week.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In the end Bahamut suffered the same fate as the first one, I could never call it a bad show, I just never ended up feeling it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've given my thoughts on tsuki ga kirei before on here but I'll add by saying that I never expected it and uchouten 2 (despite the weak wrap up I liked the lead up) to be my favourite of the season.
Kaiser-Eoghan
About five years ago or so could have seen myself really having been in the mood for LWA.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wasn't as impressed with Uchoutens finale as Mario was,I found myself more annoyed by how clumsily done it all was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
For me kado jumped the shark with its latest direction and Aidans review along with flicking through this weeks episode kind of confirms I'm done with the show. A show I was initially unsure of but thought might become something.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Yeah....at least LWA's finale was pretty good and I think there's a possibility of a second season. With the Criox/Chariot plot line out of the way I say they could really bank on it's potential. Even if they don't, this series was still quite enjoyable.
Anonymous1211365
Man I couldn't agree more with Aidan about LWA and Kado. I still like and enjoy Kado but damn it could have been so much more.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ntr trap appears to be a non-seinen/shounen yuri manga given its publication magazine.
Vonter
Not all people work as fast, but that's what companies expect nowadays. Which is why CGI is preferred over practical effects. Or even why anime has used more 3D that painted backgrounds, cars or other props that take time and work to be drawn.
Vonter
No. I get deadlines are tough. Companies and customers want everything made as fast as humanly possible, yet reality is that making things good takes time and money. I wouldn't be surprised that's why Berserk comes out every 6 months, the art is too detailed and the story is slow paced. Yet the anime was planned to be made in a year or two so it's evident either way, crunch is expected.
Lenlo
I think you misunderstood what he meant when he said the industry was a mess. Mangaka routinely work themselves into a hospital because of the demanding schedule
Vonter
Then there's the franchise appeal. Which inherently gains something because of persistence, awareness and name. It is hard when great visual effort is mainly put in things that are guaranteed to be a hit, because original stuff tend to make mistakes to find their own identity. Which in itself makes them very risky affairs.
Vonter
It's also a heavy flaw of the internet, having mainly binary opinions of good or bad. Which makes it hard to tell if you'll like something in the 7s like Nier or Alien 3 (might not be a 7 but opinions make it sound like it is). Divisive products that may or not may suit one's tastes.
Vonter
Personally I think the issue has become what suits your tastes, what are you willing to give a chance and what hits beyond the medium it is presented.
Vonter
@AidanAK47 "Manga in general is great but Jesus Christ the industry is a mess". - I mean, movies, games, and other entertainment have the same issue, since everyone has a big slice of the pie, yet there are like a million things competing for one's attention.
SuperMario
On that note, apart from the 3 shows I'n currently covering (Eccentric Family, Tsuki ga Kirei and ID-0), I will give a full review on Grimoire of Zero, a show that I feel rather difficult to pinpoint exactly on its quality.
SuperMario
Can't believe we approaching the final week of this current season. Gonna be a busy week of blogging with the usual weekly posts plus the final impressions.
SuperMario
@Anon1206174: I agree with you on both counts. And Sakura Quest has never been bad, but it could have been deeper and less messy. If you plan to watch ID-0 (I suggest you do), don't get your expectation too high because it works much better when you expect nothing of it. Like each episode I was genuinely surprised how good ID-0 actually is.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember one of Aidan's visual novel posts where he said theres potentially hundreds of VNs un-translated and LNs too, makes me wonder just how much un-translated manga we are missing out on.
Anonymous1206174
The ID-o posts sound pretty interesting, I am really thinking of dropping Sakura and watching this instead. Really loved the beginnign of Sakura and that abandoned town atmosphere it had, but I am not feeling it anymore. The recent episode about Shiori was great again though..
Kaiser-Eoghan
*looking
Then again he's an extremely forgetable person.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh Godammit, looing back over my comments I meant to say Souta not Setsuna, I suck at remembering non-English names.
Anonymous1205999
Meh - I really like this season but I already have my first cases of 'good-show-disappointing-ending/second half'
Anonymous1206022
KT Here:RE:Creators , we need to know more about the rules for Altair to see if that works. It might, and it might not. With what they know they have a good plan. But I was thinking why not just do a Super Smash Bros type game with the characters? I am sure that would generate enough stuff in order to lock her.
SuperMario
On Re:Creators, I find a better solution instead of going all cross-media like the show suggests. Someone could just make some fan-fiction on Altair that purposely show her weakness (like get busted when expose to the sun, or the magic word that render her skills useless). Less efforts, more effective
SuperMario
Man, I agree wholeheartedly with what KT said here: mass media actually sells, so it keeps the industry to a more stable position; then the art-house/more adult oriented anime can have some freedom to do what they like.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its more that I have to read it all at the same time as expecting action to come , it might change my mind if I watched it in English.
Anonymous1205580
KT here: I accept the mass media because it raises the funds for the less mainstream stuff I like. That is how I make my peace.

On RE:Creators. I get what you guys say. But for some reason I do not find the exposition heavy in this series. Every person has his own limit I guess
Alonaria
@Kaiser: Yep, that sounds about right, lol. I take my Sheldon in concentrated doses. I might give the Young Sheldon spin off an episode or two because it's highly exaggerated but still somewhat relatable to me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel big bang theory is a show for people who know nothing about nerds/nerd culture to find funny.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And then theres this thing about Sheldon being some kind of autism spectrum thing , which is kind of annoying to hear when I am on the spectrum myself and never really found the character all that amusing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Probably not the strongest reason to go off a show but, it was people around me going on and on about big bang theory that eventually put me off it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
lol is it any surprise Miura and the hunter x hunter guy take so many breaks =P
Alonaria
*Sheldon
Alonaria
I pick and choose Big Bang episodes that I enjoy. Shelden in the ball pit never ceases to amuse me. Still, it's definitely overrated haha.
Lenlo
IT Crowd > Modern Big Bang. Early Big Bang was good.

And yes, the work conditions in the Manga Industry are terrible. Oda, One Piece Mangaka, works stupid hours. He requests his assistances be "Willing to die for One Piece" because of the amount of work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And hell yeah"! someone else thats hates on big bang theory.
IT crowd > big bang.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more safer
Kaiser-Eoghan
And yet now here I am at same time, I think it might be kind of a shame that I can't see the value and fun anymore in some less safer offerings.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I thinking I might go insane if I looked up comments defending the visuals in occultic; nine.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hate to say it but sometimes opinions, mainstream ones are actually wrong. Its a fact that superhero films have bad action scenes and cinematography and Hardboiled, a chinese action film is better filmed in terms of choreography.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As dickish as this is to say, I really do recoil when ssomeone says something like the Notebook or fifty shades is the best film of all time/their favourite.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See theres also factoring in the people whos favourite film or anime of all is the most recent they finished.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember mentioning recently that I was re-watching the twilight zone, the response I got was "I thought that you were talking about twilight"
Kaiser-Eoghan
See thats whats so great about being able to talk about more niche stuff online, theres an easier to find common ground.
AidanAK47
In general when it comes to mass popular opinion it's the tried and true safe stuff that ends up selling. The highest selling Mario games are the New Super Mario ones. The same generic Light novel and harems keep selling. There are plenty of examples but majority opinion tends to gravitate to the safe and familiar.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See, most (offline) people (and or teenagers)who aren't really all that interested in film or don't look into it that much will turn out for things like fifty shades, transformers or twilight, thats why those are popular. Most people aren't going to watch something made more than a few years ago or subtitled.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh...lol fuck thats a blunder...yes I meant Re:creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But by all means, people are fully entitled to like what they like. But there is a reason why so much rubbish gets popular.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Re:Creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As someone who would actually consider themselves creative and interested in things being imaginative I really do hate the whole anti-creativity /anti-art, anti-intelligence movement and way of thinking that allows un-deservedly popular things like what Aidan mentioned to fester.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yes Re:zero's poor pacing and leaden dialogue is becoming too dominant and there should be more action, its good Setsuna opened up, but I still don't particularly like him.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine the magazines/editors probably consider themselves the writers sometimes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pretty sure I only read nisekoi because I was keeping up with conversations about it, then dropped it before the Chitoge doublie showed up, just stopped reading.
AidanAK47
On the matter of Re:Creators, I feel the same as the Anon said. I find the exposition to just drone on far too much.
AidanAK47
On the matter of the manga industry being shit...it is. Manga in general is great but Jesus Christ the industry is a mess. Work conditions are utterly abhorrent and it's even worse that most series live or die based on a magazine popularity poll.
Because just because something is popular, does not mean it is quality. Example: Transformers, Twilight, Fifty shades, Sword Art Online, Big Bang theory
AidanAK47
@Anon, Still not getting your logic here. I mean if I have a problem with it after trying it then why am I not allowed to complain about it? Anyway it is only popular for the pandering. Even those who like Nisekoi admit that it's a mediocre harem and they mainly enjoy the waifu wars on the internet.
SuperMario
and now we will resort to illegal streaming sites for this one. "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem", this f*cking true
SuperMario
Huh? Welcome to the Ballroom Anime Gets Amazon Prime-Only Streaming Inside and Outside Japan. Now that just unbearable
SuperMario
Don't know about this new Re:Creators episode since I haven't watched it, but I don't really mind Meteora. Her dialogues scream "exposition" but she still fits well to the story. The fights are good, I agree, but why didn't they go all the way with the world's collapse last episode?
Anonymous1202407
Whether Nisekoi is pandering or not, it is not enough proof for you to suggest that manga industry is shit. If u want good mainstream then its not that hard to find. Also for every success like Nisekoi which u claim to be pandering, there are dozen like it that failed to be popular. Why? Because it clearly is popular for a reason other than just simple pandering.
SuperMario
Ha, Ping Pong. I need that kind of show again in my life.
Lenlo
Also, Ping Pong is amazing.
Lenlo
Theres a difference between pandering to a large audience, and an anime/manga with a quality story that everyone ends up liking. Ive always found moe shows and things like Nisekoi to be the former.
Anonymous1202407
If you have a problem with it after trying it just dont read it. Its that simple. Also what a surprise that a show like nisekoi that appeals to a large demographic is popular. U want the mangaka to apologize it's not some art house story like Ping Pong?
Lenlo
Meteora is pretty hit or miss with her dialogue imo. Sometimes its great, othertimes its not. I can say though I enjoy most of the fights.
Anonymous1202113
I really want to like Re:Creators. To be honest though, I'm getting tired of the dialogue. It has its high points, but it sometimes just seems to drone on and on, especially with all of Meteora's "hypotheses."
KT
Both Bahamut and RE:Creators had great episodes. But I was indeed mentally screaming Super Smash Bros at RE:Creators. You will get the point when you watch the episode.
AidanAK47
Taken on it's own, Nisekoi is harmless. But it is undeniably proof that you need not be creative or innovative to succeed in the industry. In fact declaring creative bankruptcy could turn more fruitful than genuine effort.
AidanAK47
And I said how can you decide you don't like something if you haven't read it?
Of course you are likely mean that if you don't like something then give up on reading it further which of course does not mean that someone cannot complain about it regardless.
Anonymous1198985
No, Im said if you dont like nisekoi dont read it
AidanAK47
@Anon, How do you know you don't like it if you don't read it?
Anonymous1196967
Don't like it don't read it.
AidanAK47
I went and read Double Arts. This really was a great manga with tons of potentail and truly didn't deserve the axe. It's so depressing that this was cut off so soon and the author went on to make the most generic Harem ever Nisekoi, and that got over 200 chapters.
Lenlo
All of the important dance scenes for Yuri were fantastic, its just some minor one off characters and some reused ones that were an issue, so no they are better than the CGI
Anonymous1190387
Is it worse than those CGI dance scenes in some anime?
AidanAK47
@Puran, It is pretty surprising how well that story turns out. I say IG might do the job even if there animation isn't the most consistent. The one thing I am worried about is those necks though. In the PV those things were ridiculously long.
Puran
Fair enough, recycling the animation was bad, agreed. But the animation itself was really good.
Lenlo
See, I found the repeated dances in Yuri one of the worse parts. Alot of it was recycled animation and certain characters were obviously rushed/not done. Some were amazing, cause they took their time, but others looked terrible.
Puran
I kinda wish Mappa was doing the anime though. Yuri on Ice had really nicely animated dances (and was more or less the only actually good quality of that show :P )
Puran
Reading the Ballroom e Youkoso manga has made me really excited about the Anime.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Aidan: I'm particularly turned off by bully/bullying cliches these days. I've only read the first two volumes to see how awful she was but I ended up simply losing track of the series and stopped reading.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Mario: Actually that has changed, I had to pick a different day to see it given changes in schedule, I've booked it for NEXT Wednesday now. I've watched Akira about four times.
AidanAK47
Oh, Rising of the Shield Hero is getting an anime adaption. Hmmm...honestly after finishing the series and looking over it as a whole I am not sure I even want that. Plus seeing Bitch Animated...would fill me with rage.
SuperMario
I intend to re-watch Akira soon, probably this weekend. It has been almost 10 years since my first watch and now I don't remember much about that one. Thought it was intriguing and complex but not as acclaimed as people hyped it to be (I'll pick Ghost in the Shell anytime). Wonder how I'd feel now after re-watching it.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I remember you mentioned that you were going to watch In this Corner of the World today right? How was the movie Kaiser?
Lenlo
Oh cool, food wars is getting a 3rd season
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ballroom youkoso appears to be leading the polls.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Fumiko is a female mangaka yes. Also I found bokura no hentai worth reading.
SuperMario
yep, I finished that manga too and I have conflicted feeling about it. Yuri(!) part and fanservice are to blatant but they have a purpose. This mangaka (not sure but I think she's a girl) has some unique voice.
AidanAK47
....well I skimmed that manga. And it was weird
SuperMario
By all appearances,Sakura is normal,albeit sheltered junior high school girl who enjoy talking about love and walking home from school together.However,they also happen to inhabit a strange and supernatural world populated by mysterious,gigantic beings and unusual plant and animal life.Amid their peaceful lives,Sakura becomes very interested in something only alluded to exist in old books: dicks
SuperMario
Here's a synopsis of other manga from the same author, I think you'll have a better idea of his theme -
Sakura no Sono
AidanAK47
Pretty much what Masky said. I am not really praising it. Anyway I plan to read one or two more chapters to see where it's going. But if it's going in the direction I think it's going then I am dropping this one fast.
Kaiser_Eoghan
There is of course the underlying concern that it will go a very ugly route with that development or it could become edgy/horribly minipulative, but for now it is as mario said, a hook.
SuperMario
Well. overall I don't dislike what I read there. It has good hook and I'm intrigued to know more what the hell will happen. Good set-up for me. I'm in
SuperMario
@Masky: it's fine Masky, since I will chec itk out any way and see it for myself ^^
Masky
So since you guys started being interested, I checked it out and uh.. Yeah, not reading. I think ye guys misunderstood Aidans warnings since that was just fucked up and not in the interesting way.
Lenlo
@Aidan: Berserk will never again go more than 3-4 months without a hiatus.
SuperMario
Hmmm, that manga Cutie Mutie sounds good to me. I might check it out later today
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: But had you not alluded to that scene, I may have seen the cover of that manga and skipped over it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I had a feeling, sort of, sad, I am intrigued to read more.
AidanAK47
Hyping and warning are not the same thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well with Aidan hyping up the horrors of cutie mutie I may as well glance at it to see what he' on about.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There are three manga with the name rec.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am familiar with the artist for cutie mutie, she did that manga about the three kids dealing with gender/orientation issues.
AidanAK47
Oh look Berserk is on Haitus again....
.....the sad thing is that it comes as expected now.
AidanAK47
For reference the two I read were Cutie Mutie and Rec. Be warned, the first one goes to a rather uncomfortable level.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Read two manga. One started lighthearted and then went to really dark territory. The other one looks like it's about a really dark subject but turned out to be something more lighthearted.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Alright. Tested it now so it such be fixed. Try again.
Masky
@Aidan: Huh? What you read that turned dark/didn't turn dark? .-.
SuperMario
"too many answers selected for question 1! only 3 answers allowed!"
SuperMario
@Aidan: I still have the same issues. Weird
AidanAK47
@Mario, Wasn't my intent. Try it now and you should be able to pick as many as you want.
SuperMario
@Aidan: I'm not allowed to vote more than 3 votes. Is it your intention Aidan?
AidanAK47
Well that was weird. I read something that looked innocent but turned out to be really dark. Then something that looked really dark only to become innocent.
Masky
Yeah, nothing that interests me I see :D Like my strongest reaction to season preview was "Someone made isekai with smartphone? Really? REALLY? Thats best idea you had"
Masky
Ah Knighs and Magic, found that manga. It was boring enough for me to forget its name. Also besides being boring, I kinda find MC unlikeable since their only personality is that they like mechas and were a programmer before renicarnating as short bishie kid
Masky
Woo, time to vote stuff
SuperMario
@Kaiser: that movie In this Corner just getting more and more acclaimed huh? Thou I think it'a a type of movie that if you have high expectation for it you will likely be disappointed. It works best as a sleeper hit
SuperMario
As for cute monster girls, most of the time I don't find them cute at all. I know I'm being racist, but...
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm guilty with that cute girls genre, as i enjoyed K-On tremedously for example. Or If I have more time I'd follow Hinako Note this season ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
They don't always adapt all that well or work as well outside of manga format, especially 4-komas.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*three
Kaiser-Eoghan
The only two of any interest were hidamari sketch, azumanga daioh and yuru yuri and that was largely down to being in the mood for them a few years ago.
Lenlo
@Mario: Personally, I have 0 interest in this Monster girls doing cute things subgenre, just like I have very little interest in the cute girls doing cute things major genre.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As it turns out I DID read in this corner of the world. I'll also be seeing it next thursday.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: at this moment I'm very skeptical with the whole Monster girls doing cute girl subgenre, so I'm approachig Centaur with a caution. Of course, it all depends on how I feel after the first episode
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Happy End isn't as bleak aa his other works. But it's certainly Hanake's films, as it explores many of his favorite themes: the voyeurist of camera in his Benny's video, the detachment to the world and the underlying violence. Not his best thou but it's still very good
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I'd be up for watching jigoku shojo, its been a long time since I watched the original two seasons and this one won't be as long, so it won't get as repetitive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I voted centaur no nanami on the poll, think Mario could cover it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: How did did you get on with Happy end? I heard its like a mix of his best works. Is it as dark and depressing?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have vague memories of in the corner of the worlds manga, unless I'm mixing it up with something else.
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