Posted by psgels on 23 May 2014 with categories: Captain Earth

Captain Earth had a really good first episode, so I was psyched to coninue with it, purely based on storytelling reasons: it knew how to deliver its plot in an interesting way by throwing in many flash-forwards, flashbacks, hints and whatnot. Now that I’ve seen about four and a half episodes of the series I’ve got a bit of a better image of what the actual storyline is about, and I’m dropping it. There are many reasons for this, and I did feel compelled to write about them.

First of all, the self-referencing? The hints? Well, they’re gone. Like, completely. Episode four was very straightforward and didn’t really leave anything to your imagination: the aliens want their kin back, purple-haired kid is part of their kin, and the main kid has this really powerful robot that can kick their asses. Where the presentation was so interesting in episode 1, I felt myself getting really bored here.

What was the straw though, was the underlying story which became clear to me about halway through episode four. When you ignore the mood, then Captain Earth is really a cross between Eureka Seven Ao and Star Driver, and its underlying themes are a combination between the two: on one hand we have the focus on childish innocence: children should be protected, and on the other we have the themes of adolescence and sexuality in the way it talks about libido and all.

When I started to think about them, they just didn’t mesh. One one hand this series wants to be like Eureka Seven Ao, in its themes that no children should be forced in adult situations, and when you do you had better take responsibility. The thing here though, that the themes of parenthood are much better explored because of how good the characters of Ao’s parents are. What do we know about the main guy’s parents at this point? Heck, has the existance of mothers actually been alluded yet? If it did then I totally forgotten about it, which is a bad sign for both my memory and the series itself.

Also adding to the themes are the villains here, who feed off the libido of humans. Okay, so this could mean that this show is a social commentary on how children are way too often sexualized and the main characters are trying to fight that idea. I actually really like that because they do have a very big point… only the show completely screws that up with the lame bellybutton joke and sexualizes their children anyway.

So with that my only conclusion is that the villains represent adolescence: the characters are young and they are about to change majorly and experience sexuality and stuff. So yeah, it’s a coming of age series. It’s a theme that’s been done many times before, and by series that had much more interesting first four episodes. Take Utena for example, Enokido there actually wrote a setting that’s interesting, imaginative and full of symbolism that wasn’t overdone. I know that we’re fifteen years later, but even by those standards Utena’s opening episodes stand out as unique while Captain Earth combines many things that have been done to death now.

I’m a fan of the mecha genre because it offers intelligent series, if doesn’t matter how old the characters are:
– Bokura no is a fascinating story about putting huge weapons in the hands of children.
– Patlabor is a hilarious and personal look at the police in a day in which mechas are standardly used.
– Fafner in the Azure actually asks the question of who you should fight for
– RahXephon explores coming of age with actual human characters who talk at least a bit normally.
– When you really want an over the top series, go for Giant Robo, the New Mazinger or Star Driver which are made to be flashy and over the top and enjoyable to watch.
– The good Gundam and Votoms series are good for a realistic look at war (War in the Pocket, Turn A, the Votoms TV-series)

You can do a lot with the genre, and you chose the most boring one. That’s a problem I have with a lot of anime nowadays. You can do better than this, I know that of everyone involved in this project.

41 Responses

  1. Ed says:

    Take a look at Knights of Sidonia, if you wish.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Second Sidonia.

  3. O.Nunes says:

    Eagerly waiting for yous Summer Preview psgels! :D

  4. AidanAK47 says:

    Third Sidonia.

  5. CRT says:

    Fourth Sidonia :)

  6. VyseLegendaire says:

    I dropped that show after 3 eps. Can’t believe you stuck it out this long, lol l9

  7. Gordon says:

    Fifth Sidonia!!! :D

  8. Emma says:

    I’ll also put my name down for suggesting sidonia , however would be aware that the CG, the slice of life parts, characters are a bit weak and can’t really carry it. That said there is more than enough in the action scenes, background events to keep you invested and make the shortcomings more worth getting through.

  9. Tom says:

    Sigh. You like many people are confused by the word ‘Libido’. The Japanese word ‘Seiyoku’ in this context directly translates to ‘Libido’ but it means ‘Spirit’ ie life force, not the sexual libido English tends towards.

    The shows main theme is about strength of will and spirit (Seiyoku) and growing up and nurturing that strength.

    • Argentus says:

      Aren’t you mixing up 性欲(seiyoku = libido) 精力(seiryoku = energy, vitality, life spirit) by any chance?

      Going by the individual kanji: and 情(gender, inner essence, basis) 欲 (desire, wish) and 精(spirit) 力(strength), I thought that might be the case.

  10. Litho says:

    I dropped Captain Earth the minute I saw that pink haired chick doing some stupid bunny-hop while piloting her mecha.

    As for all those recs for Sidonia, I think you should just skip the anime and start reading the manga. It’s bleaker, the humor works better, and it’s prettier without the CG. Only thing you lose is the excellent sound/BGM from the anime.

    • Bam says:

      Or maybe skip that and go to Nishi’s superior materials such as Blame! Or better drawn such as Biomega. As a matter of fact we should pick one best anime and then drop all other works and just close this blog. Very flawed logic.

      I read Sidonia (yes that is how it is spelled in English) but still find this adaptation quite bold, daring and amusing. Different mediums create different experiences and as to which is better I quote a certain Great someone who once said:”That’s just like … your opinion man”.

  11. nodbgp says:

    I dropped this one after the first episode, there’s nothing that bores me more in anime these days than the whole “a small, naive kid will save the world” plot.

  12. m says:

    I think I disagree completely about the theme of this work. I would say that it actually has nothing at all to do with protecting children–least of all from adult situations. I would claim instead that it is actually about change, represented here by the youth, triumphing over stasis, which is represented by the immortal Kiltgang, by avoiding the mistakes of their mostly-useless elders. It is, I think, ultimately what lived behind Star Driver, only I think that it is done much worse in this work, because this work seemingly jettisons any focus on maturing at all, leaving it as little more than pandering to the conceit of youth. I suspect that there is actually some additional idea here meant to justify all of the reference to “A Midsummer Night’s Dream,” since it is as ham-fisted into the work as it could be without preamble before every episode indicating that the author has read Shakespeare.

    In Star Driver, the preceding generation’s desire to retain control of the world, and ultimately freeze it around its identity, required Samekh to devour the “libido” (essentially used to refer to the life force in general) of the entire world, and here the Kiltgang, who exist as digital lifeforms, need to devour the “libido” of Earth to power themselves and their spaceship. The chosen one (where before marks were passed by family members unto their preferred descendants, an exterior force simply decides who will save humanity) arrives who, through the power of friendship, will prevent the consumption of the world’s libido, preserving the cycle of life and death, and vindicating the virtue of change. Presumably, all of the Kiltgang will eventually be converted into humans by the same external power that selected the chosen one, as they experience the realization of the failings of immortality, and the leader of the faction that wishes to control the future of humanity will be made into a big boob for the ending.

    I think the series is pretty terrible, but I think it’s terrible, because it’s Star Driver as a more typical mecha formula, without any of the symbolic meta-wanking, and takes itself much too seriously for how very not clever it is, which is the downfall of the genre as a whole.

    I would also say that it looked pretty bad from the first episode. There were hooks, yes, and there were call-backs to Star Driver, but there was also a lot of time wasted on robot transformation, and plot elements that could have been called Gundam Anything.

    • happio says:

      ^similarly thought captain earth looked mediocre episode 1… it just isn’t as smart as it wants to be and tbh, became painful to watch after a while. I think i lasted until episode 2-3. and then yeah.

  13. m says:

    I’d warn that eventually about half of Cydonia devolves into harem material, though I couldn’t deal with the rigging of the anime to even hazard a guess as to how far it will get before ending.

  14. Ellixus says:

    This was expected.

    One thing was clear from the start: this series was going to be boring; no need for in-depth analysis…

    On the other hand, series like Knights of Sidonia or M3: the dark metal seem to have taken more risks, and who knows, they still may fail, but at least they are keeping the interest…

    In fact, even a series like Break Blade, which is ugly to see and has a lot of flaws has provided a more interesting background…

  15. BetaCris says:

    Sixth Sidonia.

    Give it 4 eps too, see how you like it.

  16. Eric says:

    Sidonia. No question..

    And good riddance to Captain Earth. In all honesty this show just felt so unnecessary. I dropped it after the first 2 episodes, because it just felt like a worse E7 .

  17. AFGM says:

    He’s already said he would be watching Sidonia and if he is no longer watching it, it would mean that it has lost his interest enough to justify it.

  18. starry says:

    I dropped it three episodes in, so good to know I’m not missing anything.

  19. luffy_holic says:

    I dropped Captain Earth too, it started strong and just got progressively worse. For about the last four years I have been happy getting two great new shows every season. This time there is Ping Pong and Mushish. So I hope you continue with them.

  20. Firechick says:

    If you want to check out anything new, try Happiness Charge Pretty Cure. Sure it may not be as good as Heartcatch, but I’m certainly enjoying it immensely.

  21. Elsi says:

    I can’t remember if you’re watching Hitsugi no Chaika or not… I’m still keeping up with it and it’s not doing too bad.
    This aside, yeah Sidonia is quite interesting. Mostly the world building is nice, in my opinion. The matter of CG graphics is a personal preference. I know that it reminds me of some games graphics and that’s actually something I really like.

    • Tanz says:

      Watching it too. It’s not too bad but I’m getting the harem feels, so I hope it keeps focusing on the plot and chars.

  22. Jay says:

    I gave up on Captain Earth after three eps. It’s a decent series but it ended up boring me.

    If I were you, I wouldn’t pick up Knights of Sidonia. Though, in its favour, it’s a perfectly okay series with worthwhile world-building. At present, its characters are its weak point. I’d pick up Baby Steps or Hitsugi no Chaika instead. Baby Steps is a really solidly written sports anime, though perhaps you would find it suffering in comparison to Ping Pong, and the risk is that there wouldn’t be enough to comment about every ep. Hitsugi no Chaika, on the other hand, is a solid fantasy series with some good fight scenes. It suffers very slightly from LN cliches, but by and large it’s good, and there would be enough scope to write about each ep. Still, there isn’t really an outstanding, obvious anime to blog this season which is on the level of JoJo or Mushishi or Ping Pong.

    • Bam says:

      So he should go with yet another cliche LN adaptation then the series that is trying something new? You must’ve not paid attention to his many rants about getting cynical and tired of repetitive works and his high praises of anything original. And whether you agree or not NoS is trying many new ideas, not the smallest of which is its cell-rotoscoped CGI animation. (Don’t mistakes tropes with cliches, as every single anime is replete with tropes)

      • Jay says:

        I’m only suggesting the options I think would be best out of the current season. I think those two are the best ones that Psgels isn’t blogging. If you think Knights of Sidonia is the better choice, or that it’s an outstanding series like Mushishi or Jojo, you’re totally free to, but personally I don’t think it’s at that sort of level. If Psgels tries it and finds it’s that good, then hey, good for him.

        If there’s nothing worthwhile in the current season, maybe he’d be better off picking something old, or perhaps even a manga? I wouldn’t be surprised if many people have a backlog of series they meant to try but never got around to.

        • Bam says:

          He has already blogged on it the show before and mentioned that he liked it. He might’ve dropped it at this point tho. Just as you say everyone has backlogs of shows, sometimes few episodes of currently running ones, but trying to eventually get to them. Not finishgng series that had potential but are backlogged is so unsatifying and disturbs my thoughts.

  23. Avalon says:

    Yes Sidonia!

  24. Nic says:

    Knights of Sidonia is very interesting but No Game No Life is far ahead in terms of pretty much everything. It’s bolder, funnier, more shocking, and a lot more original. And the artistic direction is gorgeous. To me, it’s like recommending a 8.5 anime when there’s a 10/10 masterpiece staring you right in the face.

    • Avalon says:

      I am really enjoying No Game No Life as well, but I know it does not mesh with psgles taste right now…and I doubt it ever would have. I’m not trying to speak for him, but it seems like the kind of anime he just wouldn’t get into.

      Sidonia on the other hand IS something I could see him giving a shot and finding out he likes.

    • Bam says:

      Giving NGNL a 10/10 is almost laughably generous considering the great animes that were produced throughout history that transcend the medium and become works of art, or even within the animes of this very season such as mushishi. It might be one of the better ones this season for a younger age-group but that’s as far as it goes. (I’m actually still being pretty generous)

      • Avalon says:

        Can’t deny this. NGNL is fun, but not groundbreaking.

      • Nic says:

        Just because it’s not a drama doesn’t mean it’s not near perfect as a comedy. And the suggestion it’s for a younger audience is insulting, I’m 28 and it’s one of the most original animes I’ve seen in a long time. Drama does not have a monopoly on quality.

        I wouldn’t compare it to Mushishi because they’re completely different genres, even if I consider both to be 10/10 overall. And no, 10 does not mean perfect because there’s no such thing as perfection in this world.

        • Bam says:

          First of all you should not be offended, as I am also 27 years old ,and as I mentioned earlier, DO enjoy NGNL. But that is exactly why I say it’s for the younger (early seinen 17-21, clearly young compare to the both of us) crowd. Any anime that has the hikikomori phenomenon as a theme is primarily for that age group, as someone who has graduated and moved out on their own and has to work does not have the privilege to recluse from society and still be able to go on living.

          Secondly NGNL is considered primarily a fantasy adventure, even though it utilizes a good amount of comedy. To say that it should be judged only based on its comedy is stretching it a bit too far. Yet even then groundbreaking series such as Great Teacher Onizuka eclipse it in pretty much all criteria regarding its comic elements.

          Of course everything is subjective and nothing perfect, that should go without saying, but a 10/10 score should be reserved for the best of the best that have pushed the envelope of the medium and are exemplary in most regards. You will find that most people will agree with me that NGNL, although watchable and fun, is not such a show and I can guarantee that will never be placed among the “masterpiece”s of anime industry.

          • Bam says:

            And you cannot use the “different genres shouldn’t be directly compared” argument as you yourself are guilty of this by initially saying that NGNL should be favored over KoS when they are clearly very different from one-another. To use that reasoning and then retreat back to the position of segregation is an informal fallacy known as Inconsistent Comparison.

  25. Tanz says:

    Same Psgels. Was psyhed at the first episode, then it just went falling down. Dropped it already. Sidonia’s really good so yeah, obviously you’ll watch that with everyone commenting on it already.

  26. meow says:

    Just took a look at Space Dandy season 2. Fun. Actually managed to make me laugh. Really curious to know if the same cast voiced all the characters in this episode. XD Cos if they did, seriously, BRAVO!

    SAO Season 2. FINALLY Sinon shows up. Salivating for episode 2. VERY, INCREDIBLY CURIOUS if xxxxxx’s new avatar gets it’s own seiyuu. Seriously doubt it but…hm…there’s no way I can mistake xxxxxx’s standard voice for a xxxx’s. No way.

    Rail Wars. Fun. Really sweet visuals but…a lot of suspension of disbelief required. >.>; You really got to turn off half your brain for this one. But kids should love it. Reminds me of Servant x Service, which actually fell closer towards the realm of plausible to me, robot teddy bear and all. Still some cool trivia about the Japan Rail system, which is probably real.

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Unless he means Kino? In that case I've never read the novels.
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Kaiser-Eoghan: Just saw it too, just wanted to see if the Kenshin mangaka thread was still there and now this too.
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Watch or read? Which do you recommend more?
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@SuperMario Animation vs. Animator?
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Kyousougiga was a creative and passionate anime. You can clearly see the love of the creators put into it. But of the year 2013 nothing can beat The Eccentric Family and Flowers of Evil for me
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@Niello/Anaon1578774?: I watched Kyousougiga maybe 6mos. ago, so I think I'll enjoy it more when I rewatch it sometime in a year or so. Seems most of my top picks cemented their place after a second viewing
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@Silver It speaks to me on a personal level no other fiction has comes close to matchin. so it has a very special place in my heart. It's also one of those that get better with each rewatch. I seem to have a penchant for liking what often get described by others as convoluted, this is one of them. I also adore Matsumoto's directing and all the symbolisms.
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@Kaiser: I neglected film in my youth as well.. and also in adulthood. A popular gag amongst my friends is that, "silver's never seen any movie ever." I hadn't seen star wars until a girl I dated in uni forced me to watch 4-6...
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Hah when I posted about liking works adapted from every medium I wondered if it was going to spark a 'top 10' discussion, but when I was trying to mentally rank them I remembered how hard it was...
@Niello: interesting that Kyousougiga is your all-time #1. I thought it was lovely but probably doesn't make the cut for me
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Novels are somewhat alien territory to me as I tend to watch adaptations be they film or otherwise.
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@Niello: I've watched thousands in the past few years because I neglected the medium in childhood.
Nielllo
Unless you mean animated only.
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@Eoghan: I don't think I watched enough films at all, and that's made even worst when I forget most of them after a couple of years.
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@SuperMario: I really recommend The Legend of the Sun Knight novel. Think it's something you'll probably enjoy quite a bit. It's quite cleverly written. You can read the official fan translation online.
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@Mario: A top ten film list for me is even harder, I can't even attempt.
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Akumetsu> death note
FITE ME.
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Gunslinger girl gets such a strong mention from me because I feel that action stories often work better when you care about the characters.
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<No Freesia adaptation
<No Eden adaptation
<No full production IG Alita film series
<why live =<
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@SuperMario: There are some anime I'm not going to watch just because the manga is superior, period. Good examples are Monster and One Piece.
Nielllo
@Eoghan: Oh, I knew about Wolfram mangaka's apprenticeship already :p
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: First however, When mountains may depart, By Jia Zhangke, I am full romance mood.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Planetes and Vinland saga have to go somewhere on a list. Oddly they share the same creator.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Reminds me Dreams by Kim-ki-duk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: I mentioned Dorohedoro's author was Nihei's apprentice, but heres another interesting one, the mangaka for Wolfram apprentice under BOTH Kento Miura and Kaoru Mori.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: gladly. On Body and Soul is a weird mix of romance drama, character study and a weirdly magical bond between two people who share the same dream. That weirdness is what make the movie so memorable, although I do feel the ending stays out its welcome
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nihei, Umezu and Itou belong somewhere among my favourite mangaka.
SuperMario
I don't know why you'd mix manga/anime together, but my own top 10 is in my profile (click over my username), I've included anime/ movies together but if the list is purely anime shows I'd add Haibane Reimen as #9 and Humanity Has Declined as #10
Nielllo
Apart from Kyousougiga which is always no.1, and The Legend of the Sun Knight, Dorohedoro, Shinsekai Yori and Monster whose places are swappable, the rest I'm quite flexible with. Saint Seiya is in if it's a favorite list, and out among the bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality list, with the exception of The Lost Canvas.
Nielllo
Hmmm, atm it's 1. Kyousougiga (a) 2. Monster (m) 3. Dorohedoro (m) 4. Shinsekai Yori (n) 5. Baccano! (a) 6. Ran to Haiiro no Sekai (m) 7. Saint Seiya (my guilty pleasure, I can't defend it in anyway) 8. Franken Fran (m) 9. The Legend of the Sun Knight (n)(1st tier comedy) 10. Haibane Renmei/Toradora!.Honorable mentions to Gamaran, Beck, GTO, Mushishi, Kaiba and Grave of the Fireflies.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Damn....its a harder question to answer than it looks =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although Cruel God reigns in heaven would com close.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nah, nothing would dethrone Gunslinger girl for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or even Utena but I feel it somewhat overated as I do Bebop despite enjoying both.
Kaiser-Eoghan
One of those on the top ten could easily be switched for honey and clover.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also love the works of Shimura Takkako, early takahashi and early Clamp.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Shiki would work its way onto a recent favourites list.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My favourite visual novels are Kara no shoujo, saya no uta and Sharin no kuni.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've a soft spot for ah my goddess, basara, 7 seeds , nanoha and Red river.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If I was making more modern lists for recent favourites I'd probably add flipflappers somewhere or yuasas works.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh my top ten by mixing manga and anime into the same list? 1. Gunslinger (both) girl 2. Ghost in the shell (anime) 3. Earl cain saga (manga) 4. Angel Sanctuary (manga) 5. Texhnolyze (anime) 6. Lain (anime) 7. Perfect blue (anime) 8. Fruits basket (manga) 9. Monster 10. Kare kano.
Nielllo
I don't think anything will ever dethrone Kyousougiga for me though.
Nielllo
I still need to watch Tatami Galaxy and a bunch of other staple shows...
Lenlo
We could put out a site-author Top 10 list sometime maybe... Some of mine are Mushishi, Steins;Gate, Tatami Galaxy and Your Lie in April. Its got a spectrum of genre.
Nielllo
So what are people's top 10?
silver
Certainly on my top 10 list I have works adapted from VNs, manga, novels, LNs, and originals. I just think originals have a higher rate of efficient visual storytelling compared to adaptations
silver
@Kaiser: I like SEL and Haibane and texhnolyze is on my ever-growing list of things to watch. I also really like Gurren Lagen and Kill la Kill although they're both better if you've seen enough anime to know what they're parodying. My ex who loathed most anime because of the aforementioned over-exposition issue also introduced me to Dennou Coil which I really enjoyed.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Body and soul just got released on a webdl , sell me on the film if you can =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Silver: Texhnolyze/Lain/Haibane are excellent examples.
silver
I think original anime offers a different experience than adaptations, particularly regarding 'show don't tell.' By necessity most anime source material is dialogue and exposition heavy and can't always utilize the medium efficiently. Of course, I've watched masterpieces adapted from every kind of source, so it's all good
Niello
I'd love to see this thing animated some day. Preferably with movie budget: http://thepropertyofhate.com/TPoH/Ex position/312
Niello
@Eoghan: Try searching in some Asian languages and you might have better luck.
silver
Most open-minded people I talk with don't have anything against animated entertainment. Shows like Bob's Burgers, Archer, and Bojack Horseman have carved a modern niche for 'adult' animation. Having a show about talking alcoholic horse would be pretty cheesy with live action.
Niello
Never mind, Mario said it. But I also don't agree that idol shows or incest shows are intrinsically bad. On top of idol being a trend in Japan first and anime pick it up because it's part of the culture.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The reason people see the worst side of things, is because that is what is made most on the surface and immediate,
Niello
@Amagi: Considering that all the ones you listed are originally manga, I think you should give manga more credit...
Kaiser-Eoghan
And by finding I mean, hard to buy or torrent .
Kaiser-Eoghan
The infuriating thing is how poorly distributed some things are. I hate seeing Godammn blurays of shit hollywood films everywhere and I have to struggle to find some old/quality eastern film.
Amagi
I think it's the same problem as with endless shounen. Sometimes series get dragged on purpose to make more money.
Amagi
The tons of seasons is what scares me away sometimes
Kaiser-Eoghan
I keep thinking, why pad a 90 minute-9 1/2 hour story in a billion one hour per episode seasons.
Amagi
Yeah it's always like that, with cinema movies too.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also hate ensemble/mosaic storytelling for the larger part, with some exceptions.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I know this excuse won't work with people who love serialized live-action tv dramas but...I don't like most tv shows because of how padded they are and that they go on far too long and the acting is tv standard and not film standard.
Lenlo
I dont want TV that much, but my experience has been there are very few shows worth watching. Just like anime.
Lenlo
Well, in the argument that anime has alot of bad trends to, I would say so does regular television. How many TVs per year are as good/acclaimed in the "best" anime of each season are in the community?
Amagi
I think it's just sad that there are so many people (the big majority) that refuse to watch cartoons in general because they consider them as either childish or a worse version of "real" series. They'll always miss the good sides anime/manga have and therefore certain sub-genres as a whole.
Amagi
@SuperMario: Yeah you're right. I should have specified it to Japanese drawn media in general (VNs too). And yeah most anime/manga are rather trashy or blatantly bad. But the good series are often something live acting can't create and we'd miss without Japan. There are good cartoons too, though
SuperMario
... original ones: Cowboy Bebop, EVA, Flip Flappers, Kaiba, etc
SuperMario
@amagi: I almost agree with everything you said, but we might give anime too much credits. Remember it's a medium that responsible for many, many bad trends: idol shows, incest shows, tentacle hentai shows and so on so forth. The shows you listed here are come from manga as well, and they are strong manga materials to begin with. If I choose an example of what anime can achieve I'd point to some..
Amagi
This season is really good and it shows how lacking fiction would be without anime. Stuff like Shuumatsu, Houseki or even Mahoutsukai can only exist as anime. It's something live acting script writers would never come up with, not to mention that a lot would be lost without the respective drawing styles, be it the moe blobbs of Shuumatsu or the CGI hair, grass and camera movement of Houseki.
KTravlos
btw I really liked this Mahoutsukai no Yome episode. Finally we are getting somewhere
Amagi
@Kaiser: You're right, totally forgot that. Looking forward to this. Also I could have sworn I heard about a new project from Iso (Dennou Coil) last year but I guess I either confused him with someone else or with Children of Ether in which he's involved in some kind of way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: That series was going to be devilman crybaby .
Amagi
Wasn't Yuasa also doing a series of some sort this year? Haven't watched the movies yet but I loved most of his stuff so far, with Kaiba being my favorite.
Anonymous1575628
Wow, Houseki did not disappoint for me this week.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed it for what it was. But I'd say even if you didn't read the subs you probably wouldn't have much trouble following it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I actually had a look and lu over the wall, coincidentally , there are moments of where Yuasa's imagination/visuals shine through and its a genuinely charming film at times, but it does almost outstay its welcome and there's a sense Yuasa was somewhat restrained this time round, it IS a kids movie and that kind of does need to be taken into account, its not AS mad as mind game or kemonozume.
Amagi
Yoake Tsugeru Lu no Uta is subbed, but no idea if the subs are good
Kaiser-Eoghan
And its quite natural.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Florida project succeeds through its free flowing nature/narrative and manages to be hilarious all the while managing to never allow you forget its also a kitchen sink drama, the best performances come from William Dafoe and the girl. At the end it gut punches the audience emotionally.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: also expecting Florida Project, 3 Billboards, and The Shape of Water in my end
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, Kino was a bit too slight this week.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Just Lu, disaster artist and happy end left now for the year. Maybe the new Godzilla.
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