Posted by AidanAK47 on 29 December 2016 with categories: Anime Reviews, Currently Watching:, Occultic:Nine

I am certain this may seem like an extreme rating for some but the number scale always has been something I only carried over as part of psgels format. But this rating exemplifies my feelings about this show in its entirety. This show is awful, terrible, rage inducing, illogical, nonsensical garbage. Watching this show was one of my most unpleasant experiences watching anything. When I started this show I at least thought it couldn’t be as bad as Robotics;Notes, for that show was truly something else when it came to bad writing. But I was flabbergasted to see that this show was so much worse. To the point where I may swear off watching any colon series from this point forward.

The plot of this show is a complete mess and looking at it in it’s entirely it not only makes no sense but the only points where the story goes anywhere is at the every beginning and the very end. The middle portion of this story is nothing but a giant waste of time as the characters only work to try to figure out a mystery that would eventually be explained to them and side plots which are introduced but have not plot relevance whatsoever. The main middle part of this story involves a murderer who not only has little or nothing to do with the main mystery but is dropped and never mentioned again once his little arc is through. The characters are all either unlikable or stereotypical and it’s important to note that they do mostly nothing besides motormouth exposition. Design wise they are not very interesting and need I mention the girl with a chest so astronomically huge that it is incredibly distracting? I do not mean that this is attractive, I mean that this girl’s anatomy is so utterly ridiculous that it’s like having a giant elephant in the room that no one seems to address. I will say as well that his character does nothing but try to figure out every motion she can make to move her breasts as much as possible and make me question how her back hasn’t snapped into splinters. She plays a stereotypical dumb blond joke until the last two episodes. Where she is pretty much lobotomized and replaced with a completely different character.

What the mystery becomes in it’s final episode is something you could swear was parody but the show itself is clear that it wants you to take it completely seriously. It tries to tug at your heartstrings when the characters are talking at a speed of bullet trains. Out of the nine characters mentioned in the title, only two are actually relevant. The rest are just throwaway side characters whose absence wouldn’t hurt the show, if anything it would shorten the runtime and make it more focused. It becomes impossible to take even an iota of this story seriously when it pulls out deus ex machina like those angel wings you happen to see in the screenshots up there. Isn’t that utterly ridiculous for a story that want wants to be an intelligent mystery series? Well if you find that hard to swallow I assure you that it’s the tip of the iceberg. This story has twists and turns that just make you wish to yell at the top of your lungs “WHAT?!”

The direction is a nightmare. Want to know how bad? You need not take my word for it, just watch the first thirty seconds of the very first episode. I assure you that by the time you get back to this review you will be very confused. I have no idea what the director of this show was thinking as screenshots have no logical cohesion with what is being represented. A large number of times our protagonists will suddenly start talking rapid fire like a bakemonogatari series before reverting back into normal speech. There is an episode filled with so many dutch angles you will feel physically ill just from watching it. There is a scene where the camera spins 360 degrees in place for three straight minutes. There are camera shots flipped upside down or 90 degrees for no apparent reason. Sometimes spacial awareness is just thrown out the window and you have a giant girl speaking to a small boy in a close up shot when they are supposed to be on opposite sides of the room. I must ask if they director went to film school because it was almost as if he wanted to make this show as painful to watch as possible. For that I truly pity the animators who do a stand out job despite what they have to work with.

There are some who say that at least this tried something different but I say no. Magical Girl Raising Project tried something different and while it didn’t succeed, at least the end result doesn’t make me want to claw my eyes out. You can say that someone tried something different by making a coffee mug out of monkey feces but it’s still shit no one wants. This writer has passed the point of being applauded for experimentation so it’s an insult to give him kudos for fan fiction level writing. So without surprise I am sure, I recommend you avoid this anime at all cost. Pay no heed to those claiming it’s good, they are clearly blind. Save your brain cells, don’t even watch it as a joke because I assure you that this series will go out of it’s way to make sure you can’t get any fun out of it. I declare Occultic;Nine to be the worst anime I have ever seen and if you are wise you would heed my words. Don’t waste your life on this flaming trashcan of a show. I have wasted far too much of my time on it already.

21 Responses

  1. Firechick says:

    Wow. Didn’t think I’d ever see a 0/100 rating in all the years I’ve been coming to this site. I always thought that Shinzo movie would be the king of crap on here. I haven’t seen this, nor do I want to. My personal worst anime that I’ve ever seen was a stupid little PSA OVA called Ijime, and I feel that one is worthy of a 0/100 rating more than anything.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      As I said in the review, its a pretty personal rating. There are anime objectively worse but to me this is the worst.

    • Anthony Wu says:

      Change in authorship means change in the numbers.

      I’m sure psgels would have rated it above a 0/100, had psgels continued to maintain this blog.

      That said, the show is pretty clearly garbage. I’m one of the folks who finds it a pity that the experimentation didn’t pay off, but I agree with Aidan – at some point the writer tipped over the scales of trial and error into pure error territory.

      I’d recommend that anime geeks watch episode 1, and then stop. It tells you everything you need to know about whether breakneck pacing works or not for you. If for some reason episode 1’s trainwreck makes you want to watch more, you’ll probably like the series. Just don’t watch more on the premise that maybe it’ll get “better”. It definitely does not. It stays just as confusing, just as filled with tell-don’t-show, and the characters are just as prone to shouting randomly.

  2. meow says:

    Just throwing in my two cents here. The only part about this review I agree with wholeheartedly is the motormouth exposition. This story was on fast forward, trying to squeeze a very long, complex story into a single season, which, as expected, caused some derailing. I’m not ready to call it a full train wreck yet though. I did enjoy it more than Chaos;Head. It helps that I was already expecting some of the twists of this mystery, having already seen the likes of Robotic;Notes and Steins;Gate. Setting up a supernatural horror while in fact intending for a contemporary sci-fi mystery. It’s nothing that breaks a lot of new ground but I could follow the plot somewhat, including the purpose of the dutch shots to raise tension in an otherwise mundane conversation. The creators wanted the audience confused, to keep them guessing. We saw this technique in stuff like Hyouka too. The pacing there was much slower but I admit there I only could figure out what the story was talking about after watching the whole thing to it’s conclusion and then tracing back. I blame my poor Japanese. XD Hyouka’s pacing was, of course, much slower but stuff talked about in one episode would come around to explain itself again somewhat later is seen again here. I did like the occult plot twist later and I found it good that all the pieces left behind in previous episodes would come back to form a full picture in the end, with some deus ex machina to force some pieces in. I wouldn’t put this show on the same level as Hyouka though. And didn’t hit the high bar Steins;Gate set. But it wasn’t bad for me. It’s just a real pity that they had to squeeze way too much into too little time. I suppose a cliffhanger season ending mid-story might not have worked. I don’t think we have any complaints on production values, which I thought were top notch. Did anybody play the visual novel on pc/playstation? Any comparison between the two mediums?

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      This show was based on a light novel with only two volumes out currently so saying they have no time is no excuse. There is a game coming at a later date. But as I said, it doesn’t matter if you give this more time because the mystery is broken, none of it makes any sense. You say you have difficultly following it, well I could follow it. Hence why I see so many more cracks in the veneer. If you actually sit down and think about it, nothing in this story makes any sense.

      • meow says:

        No I didn’t have difficulty following O9. There was only one major surprise for me a third of the way through when they started hearing their names on tv. I was comparing it to Hyouka, which did get me confused. I wasn’t aware the game wasn’t out yet. Could have sworn I saw a VN version out on japan’s playstation store way back when.

        O9 has a bizarre unreal premise to be sure, much like inventing a cellphone that can send sms messages through time but it seems to hold together for me.

        Nonsensically unrealistic, sure but well, not more so than a boy travelling to alternate fantasy dimensions to battle witch cultists, etc. It’s not terribly hard to swallow. The only real issue I have is that it’s on fast forward. The characters are literally speed-talking, trying to get their nuances in while also pushing a rather complicated plot. There’s not enough time for the cake to set so it’s coming out half-baked. They rushed to many plot points out, including stuff like the spiritual time limit to snap back in time with the right stimulation and somehow self-resuscitating 10 minutes after actually drowning. Would have liked a long scene on that alone of a touch and go situation of one or two of those characters struggling to resuscitate, succeeding and dragging the rest to safety. Sigh. If they just had more time to get the pacing right…

        But there was enough good stuff in there to make it an ok show for me. Well, to each his own, i guess.

        • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

          No Meow. No. I am not saying this story makes no sense because it has supernatural elements. Fiction doesn’t have to be realistic, but it does have to be feasible. What I mean by sit down and think about it, is for you to sit down and think about why the characters in this show do what they do. Then you will see how little sense this show actually makes.

          Why did the evil organization kill over 200 people to test some chemical when they could have grabbed some cultists or homeless people and test without causing a media frenzy and the need for a massive cleanup? Why did Ryo-tas wait until the very last minute to reveal herself to Gamotan? How in the hell did that little boy overpower people and turn them into raspberry jam? How did he even drag them to his secret underground lair without anyone noticing? Who the hell even built it and why? Even if you try to explain this stuff it could only come across as either contrived or nonsensical.

          I refuse to give this show any merit. It’s trash.

          Lastly: “Nonsensically unrealistic, sure but well, not more so than a boy travelling to alternate fantasy dimensions to battle witch cultists, etc.”
          Really? You jump right for the obvious comparison to try and make me rethink this? Choosing this is just weak mate. Might as well throw in a comparison to Fate/Stay Night while you are at it.

          • meow says:

            Wow. You’re really pissed at this show. XD Okay. Okay. I’ve said my piece. But to answer some of your questions…

            Why did the evil organization kill over 200 people to test some chemical when they could have grabbed some cultists or homeless people and test without causing a media frenzy and the need for a massive cleanup?

            This scene got the audience to sit up and take notice. Very high dramatic effect. Like a bomb going off down the street. Something serious is happening. This isn’t a school occult club looking for the 7 Mysteries in Town anymore. It worked for me. And who guessed it would be a set up for the next whammy. How many of you guys guessed that there was something strange about how the reporter’s colleagues completely ignored her? Or the detective, for that matter? And btw, they did experiment on their own. At least two characters were children of key personnel. They were under observation for years to the point where one of them had a code name because of his abnormal properties. The moon bar was a special observation platform just for him along with techs at hq that could instantly tell every time Gamotan got a shot from Ryo-tas’s Tesla pistol. The rest were probably randomly selected residents within the same control area. Notice how conveniently they could all be disposed of at the same spot, instead of 200 mysterious deaths all over the country. Remember, one of the objectives of the experiment includes mind control over living people. I’d say they had that down pat cos they managed to get 200 people to unconsciously commit suicide.

            Why did Ryo-tas wait until the very last minute to reveal herself to Gamotan?

            Dramatic effect? Needed Gamotan to gather enough pieces on his own so they could get their objectives to align enough? Ryo-tas had to rely on the mysterious radio voice to coerce Gamotan into doing some waaaay out things, including extracting the tooth out of a murder victim’s body. Would Ryo-tas laying all the cards out from the beginning have worked? “Gamotan, please go get this really important gadget out of this newly murdered guy’s mouth to save the world. Pretty please? You can touch my boobs.” Remember how frustrated she was when Gamotan refused to go out to look for Miyu.

            How in the hell did that little boy overpower people and turn them into raspberry jam? How did he even drag them to his secret underground lair without anyone noticing? Who the hell even built it and why?

            Cookie cutter serial killer side plot? There’s any number of ways for this to work. Helps that the victims are all young girls who see no harm in walking down dark lonely alleys alone in Japan, maybe? Do you watch Criminal Minds? There’s like a new serial killer every week. Honestly, I didn’t really want to know the gory details. I think this whole side plot was to flesh out the whole cursed box legend to get under the audience’s skin. That there were multiple previous boxes was probably just added shock value. The guy was collecting cursed boxes like cardfight vanguard cards. Gee…nice picture they’re painting there.

            Not sure about the secret room under the monument. Is that terribly important? Maybe they just wanted to invent a fascinating fiction about there being a secret facility under a famous real-life monument for dramatic effect? A lot of the story seems to be based on real urban or folktale legends. That whole cursed box tale sounds authentic somehow cos it’s presented like it’s common knowledge.

            Happy New Year 2017. Looking forward to a lot more Fate. Btw, ***SPOILER***: That furry in FGO showed up in a different form in Tsukihime. You will probably hate it even more after you find out who/what it is. Even harder to swallow than o9 maybe.

  3. Vonter says:

    You mean to tell me this show it’s worse than Cross Ange!? :O

    I wonder if at some point the internet will have a reverse score system distinguishing from the enjoyably bad, to the irritating, to the boring and to the worse of all, the offensively bad.

  4. Jedman says:

    I bet psgels would have liked this.

    Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean that the show is bad or that other people won’t enjoy it.

    Ive been pleasantly surprised I actually quite like this show.

    Just goes to show how a lot of Anime reviews are overly subjective and people shouldn’t judge things without trying them themselves.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      Sigh…yep, and Psgels never liked bad shows before.
      Just because I don’t like a show or a show being poorly written doesn’t mean I didn’t understand it. And no matter how bad an anime is there is bound to be someone who enjoys it.

      “Just goes to show how a lot of Anime reviews are overly subjective and people shouldn’t judge things without trying them themselves.”

      That’s common sense though it’s unreasonable to try everything just on the off chance of it being your thing. So it’s better to not base your judgements solely on one opinion. Generally if a lot of people don’t like something then there’s a good reason for it.

  5. jedman says:

    Fair enough, but 0 out of 100 though?

    Even if you don’t like this Anime you can’t deny the Art and music are both pretty decent.

    I just feel like most Anime fans are overly critical and negative to the point where if I went by most peoples opinions, the majority of Anime is considered bad and I wouldn’t watch anything.

    A lot of people just jump on the hate train without giving shows a chance, if an Anime is flawed in even the smallest of ways people start hating on it despite the fact it may be mostly good.

    It’s like most Anime fans are highly negative people who complain and hate on everything they can.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      To quote the review: “I am certain this may seem like an extreme rating for some but the number scale always has been something I only carried over as part of psgels format. But this rating exemplifies my feelings about this show in its entirety.”

      I get that objectively it’s not the worst anime in existence but on a personal level I have never hated a show so viciously like this one. I did not enjoy this, not one bit.

      Opinions on the internet are often one of two extremes. It’s either the nectar of the gods or the abomination of creative thought. There isn’t really a middle ground because the middle-ground is hard to truly hard to form an opinion on. Hence why you wouldn’t see many defend a show that’s flawed but has some good points.

      Best not to take it too seriously. Those that spout hate like that are often playing it up in order to be funny or just to vent out frustration. It’s not just anime fans that do that, frankly it’s fans of anything.

  6. Jedman says:

    I don’t understand how you can watch 12 episodes of something you don’t like lol, I would give up a few episodes in.

  7. Jedman says:

    I kinda enjoyed this but felt a bit frustrated by the fast forward pacing towards the end. The story really could have done with a lot more space to breathe. So it is disappointing how rushed this was, still not the worst Anime ive ever seen just very rushed.

  8. Jedman says:

    I agree with what you said about how it tries to tug at your heartstrings when the characters were talking at 100 miles an hour, I don’t think I felt anything for the characters due to the fast forward pacing.

  9. movies4life says:

    Well, I disagree with you guys.
    I try lots of time to watch the first 3 episodes because I fall in sleep and the characters who met in a bar were boring and stupid and make no sense (Student detective?)e
    But after the third episode, they find out that they all died, dead and lost souls where nobody can see them.
    Later they find out that the time goes differently for them.
    I spoil the story because your rating let people, not them self-decide.
    I GET ENTERTAINED, and that’s what important.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      You spoil the story for people to get people to check it out for themselves? You just ruined two of the biggest twists the series has to offer, what reason do they have to check it out now? To find out the explanations behind those twists? Cause believe me the logic behind them makes no sense and is just really goddamn stupid.

  10. movies4life says:

    …..But entertaining…

  11. Jedman says:

    Spoilers are not cool.

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Anonymous1637770
Also it can be tricky selecting a season sequel since some old series had like 50 to 100 episodes, what counted as a season then?
Anonymous1637770
@Kaiser-Eoghan - It's more common in videogames (especially Capcom) than in other mediums. Megaman 2, RE 2, Street Fighter 2, Dino Crisis 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, etc.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually in a rarity, a sequel season is better than the first.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which makes my enjoyment of sangatsu so strange.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I generally do not like game/sports orientated shows.
Kaiser-Eoghan
That you slightlySuper-erMario and superwooper!
Kaiser-Eoghan
And my reaction to the show is such, that I enjoyed it enough to make such a huge pot about it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also I want Akari to be my mom and Hina is adorable without being annoyingly so and Kana Hanazawa is doing a good job voicing her.

And whoever said it is right, the op/ed songs are worth listening to, for once I’m not skipping them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
At this point it feels as if by the end of the series I’ll come off it thinking that I don’t want to say goodbye to these characters.
I don’t think as of just yet it complete lives up to honey and clovers legacy though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never cared about Harunobu initially, but recent episodes have changed this.
Dull parts of the manga are easier to get through for me in the anime due to Shaft elevating the material with one of the better uses of their visual gimmicks.
Giving the series another chance, even though I won’t fully embrace the humour, it does now and then manage to make me laugh a little.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The bullying arc centering on Hina and the shows treatment of it is better than most anime bullying stories and has provided the most emotionally rewarding aspect of the show.
Characters that are assholes like Kyouko’s boyfriend, Kyouko herself I’m finding somewhat more sympathetic and want to see more to their personal drama.
Kaiser-Eoghan
However I do genuinely think that the series does a good job of allowing dramatic moments to creep up on the viewer, that early scene of Hina crying over her mother, Rei’s family flashbacks, Akari’s concerns about Hina/the stuff with her dad, all the scenes with Kyouko do carry an effective and solid dramatic weight to them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel it starts very strong, making a great first impression, then kind of has these dull moments that make it sort of a slog at times to get through, unfortunately I have no interest in chess/shougi and no knowledge the show tries to give me is going to stick or allow me to embrace that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Through jumping back and forth between the anime and manga, I can say I have no caught up to where I will now watch March comes like a lion on a weekly basis.
Anonymous1636224
The blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki
Anonymous1636224
Mmmmmm the suffering of all those innocent people feeding his God boner, this is why I love Inuyashiki
Lenlo
Oh yeah, thats not a knock against it. Just noting they dont *need* much animation
SuperMario
Well, the nature of Mahoutsukai is slow-burned, so it makes sense they focus more on static, quiet moments
Lenlo
Was that blade 2022 thing supposed to be an example? Because I wasnt a fan. It was stylish sure, but difficult to follow.
Lenlo
Maho is a good looking show, I wouldnt call it a great animated show.
Lenlo
The issue for me is, theres just not alot being animated most of the time. Usually its a pretty slow moving anime, so most of its time is talking and still shots. It doesnt need alot of animation, so it doesnt have it.
Lenlo
@Niel, I think Mahoutsukai can have good animation when it wants to. Like the water viel in episode 10 looked good (Though im not sure how much of that was after effects)
Anonymous1635607
uhhh creepy
Anonymous1635589
the blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki so much
Amagi
I think the security is the same as here, it's just that Japanese people are less likely to rip stuff (correct me if I am wrong). It seems like ripped anime, manga and so on are basically always uploaded by Americans, Chinese people or someone else.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised heavens feel was camripped I thought security in japanese theatres was stronger.
Amagi
Yeah it's also screening in Germany, I will watch it in February, together with Heaven's Feel, Mutafukaz, Kimikoe and a few others.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*on Europa cinema
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nanoha new film to screen next February in the US, come in Europa license it for over here dammit....
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did have some down moments though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I guess contrasting Luke with his old self goes some way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Saw the preview screening of the new star wars, still feel the new trilogy stands inbetween the originals and prequels, fufills its duty as a *** star blockbuster , some genuinely hilarious high camp moments, awful tokenism, Snoke is a shit villain, but two scenes with Luke actually have a pathos to them and I liked the chase/action scenes when they happened. Nobody cares about the acting/dialogue
AidanAK47
But there are times when it goes way too far and you can barely make out what is even supposed to be happening. Or characters go so off model that they are unrecognizable. It can be immersion breaking. Much like uncanny CGI.
AidanAK47
@Niel, I do agree that it's annoying to see people complain about animation when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Like those inbetween frame screenshot people. But I will say I appreciate on model characters more so than chaotic movement. When the off model stuff suits the tone of the scene like that blade runner part, then it's fine.
niel
I also don't want to see someone imply visual=animation for the hundredth time. Are people really that ignorant of the technical/artistic aspect of the media they consumed?
niel
It just depends on what works best in given scene and the aesthetic they want to go for. People can complain all they want about off-model stuff, but if they really only want that the they won't be getting nearly as much of those impactful scenes as there are now. So many of the ways people complain about it is really irking to me.
niel
normal/low action scenes is different from being on-model during the action sequences and just the ones that need some extra impact in general. https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ?t=6m45s
niel
But that depends on the situation though. And I'd argue that being consistent and on-model during
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter/Niello/Mario: Ideally I want it both ways, fluid animation AND consistent model visuals, all the while never sacrificing choreography.
SuperMario
But really, who am I to say. I'm the dude who prefer beautiful shot composition myself
SuperMario
The same can be said with Shinkai's movies since he always prefers static, beautiful shot that people tend to overlook that his animation is quite poorly handled
Vonter
You're right, but art direction does alleviate limited animation, I mean the old Berserk anime, kinda has a lot of slideshow moments. MahoYome has nice backgrounds, and despite the samey faces, at the very least doesn't come from the same mold as other series. Still cutting corners with chibi segments is was a mistake.
SuperWooper
Is it any wonder that people prefer things to be static/on-model? They want to see characters who look consistent and familiar so they can relate to them.
Nie
MahoYome being the biggest offender of people getting triggered to any kind of statement about the show's animation not being good. And it's absurd because the show's animation really isn't great at all. It's good with distracting people with pretty pictures, but animation-wise it's still mediocre.
Nie
@SuperMario: Not much. Just stuff like "Art is part of the animation weather it's beautiful backgrounds or just amazing looking characters. It's not all about how they move. If it was, CG would be considered great animation" multiple times. I've just been finding myself being replied with these kinds of comment non-stop since the start of the season.
SuperMario
@Niello: What happened exactly, if you don't me asking?
Nielllo
If I hear someone says AMB has good animation one more tie I might actually lose it. It's amazing how people who apparently know nothing about it try to defend this and other people who don't know anything are actually supporting the guy.
Niello
So with Fate Apocrypha episode 22 out, I'm just now learning that people think webgen style is horrible and they prefer static scenes with pretty visual over actual quality animation. WTF. I can't comprehend this. Are casual people who watch animation in general really that oblivious to the art they have been watching?
Lenlo
Berserks Dynasty Warriors style game looked better. Also, Mahoutsukai should be up tonight/tomorrow. Turns out, Christmas is a busy time of year at this job.
Amagi
*worse
Amagi
Especially when you consider how good CGI can be by now, look at Houseki or Kado. But Berserk was the worst thing I saw in years, many scenes felt worst than sequences of PSX games
Amagi
@SuperMario: Same. I love Kon and also consider Paprika's OST as the best. @Lenlo: Me too. I honestly even enjoyed the movies but the new series was atrocious
Lenlo
HIRASAWAAAA! HAAAAAI YOOOOO.
I miss the 90s Berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was also quite fond of his soundtracks for Berserk. AIIIIIYE FORCES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
SuperMario
@Amagi: I'm a big fan of Kon so I've watched everything from his. Even bought a book about his works. About the soundtrack, I listened to them as well but not regularly, compare to pprika OST which I downloaded and listen to a lot
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although not completely a manga, Usagi yojimbo also has an anthro character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Millennium actress is partially inspired by the actress Setsuko Hara.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: The anthro-animal manga is even a topseller as far as I know. Haven't looked into it yet, though. Maybe I will do so.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I am still hoping Dream Machine will happen some day. Kon died believing it would happen
Amagi
@SuperMario: Have you tried the other Kon movies like Millennium Actress once? Thought they were really good and Hirasawa is responsible for the OST there too. Or Paranoia Agent which was (IMO) very good as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nttSKBJ38k (OP)
Niello
Eoghan: Enjoy... ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't read this, its very strange to see a manga about full anthro animal characters: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Beastars
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
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