Posted by AidanAK47 on 29 December 2016 with categories: Anime Reviews, Currently Watching:, Occultic:Nine

I am certain this may seem like an extreme rating for some but the number scale always has been something I only carried over as part of psgels format. But this rating exemplifies my feelings about this show in its entirety. This show is awful, terrible, rage inducing, illogical, nonsensical garbage. Watching this show was one of my most unpleasant experiences watching anything. When I started this show I at least thought it couldn’t be as bad as Robotics;Notes, for that show was truly something else when it came to bad writing. But I was flabbergasted to see that this show was so much worse. To the point where I may swear off watching any colon series from this point forward.

The plot of this show is a complete mess and looking at it in it’s entirely it not only makes no sense but the only points where the story goes anywhere is at the every beginning and the very end. The middle portion of this story is nothing but a giant waste of time as the characters only work to try to figure out a mystery that would eventually be explained to them and side plots which are introduced but have not plot relevance whatsoever. The main middle part of this story involves a murderer who not only has little or nothing to do with the main mystery but is dropped and never mentioned again once his little arc is through. The characters are all either unlikable or stereotypical and it’s important to note that they do mostly nothing besides motormouth exposition. Design wise they are not very interesting and need I mention the girl with a chest so astronomically huge that it is incredibly distracting? I do not mean that this is attractive, I mean that this girl’s anatomy is so utterly ridiculous that it’s like having a giant elephant in the room that no one seems to address. I will say as well that his character does nothing but try to figure out every motion she can make to move her breasts as much as possible and make me question how her back hasn’t snapped into splinters. She plays a stereotypical dumb blond joke until the last two episodes. Where she is pretty much lobotomized and replaced with a completely different character.

What the mystery becomes in it’s final episode is something you could swear was parody but the show itself is clear that it wants you to take it completely seriously. It tries to tug at your heartstrings when the characters are talking at a speed of bullet trains. Out of the nine characters mentioned in the title, only two are actually relevant. The rest are just throwaway side characters whose absence wouldn’t hurt the show, if anything it would shorten the runtime and make it more focused. It becomes impossible to take even an iota of this story seriously when it pulls out deus ex machina like those angel wings you happen to see in the screenshots up there. Isn’t that utterly ridiculous for a story that want wants to be an intelligent mystery series? Well if you find that hard to swallow I assure you that it’s the tip of the iceberg. This story has twists and turns that just make you wish to yell at the top of your lungs “WHAT?!”

The direction is a nightmare. Want to know how bad? You need not take my word for it, just watch the first thirty seconds of the very first episode. I assure you that by the time you get back to this review you will be very confused. I have no idea what the director of this show was thinking as screenshots have no logical cohesion with what is being represented. A large number of times our protagonists will suddenly start talking rapid fire like a bakemonogatari series before reverting back into normal speech. There is an episode filled with so many dutch angles you will feel physically ill just from watching it. There is a scene where the camera spins 360 degrees in place for three straight minutes. There are camera shots flipped upside down or 90 degrees for no apparent reason. Sometimes spacial awareness is just thrown out the window and you have a giant girl speaking to a small boy in a close up shot when they are supposed to be on opposite sides of the room. I must ask if they director went to film school because it was almost as if he wanted to make this show as painful to watch as possible. For that I truly pity the animators who do a stand out job despite what they have to work with.

There are some who say that at least this tried something different but I say no. Magical Girl Raising Project tried something different and while it didn’t succeed, at least the end result doesn’t make me want to claw my eyes out. You can say that someone tried something different by making a coffee mug out of monkey feces but it’s still shit no one wants. This writer has passed the point of being applauded for experimentation so it’s an insult to give him kudos for fan fiction level writing. So without surprise I am sure, I recommend you avoid this anime at all cost. Pay no heed to those claiming it’s good, they are clearly blind. Save your brain cells, don’t even watch it as a joke because I assure you that this series will go out of it’s way to make sure you can’t get any fun out of it. I declare Occultic;Nine to be the worst anime I have ever seen and if you are wise you would heed my words. Don’t waste your life on this flaming trashcan of a show. I have wasted far too much of my time on it already.

21 Responses

  1. Firechick says:

    Wow. Didn’t think I’d ever see a 0/100 rating in all the years I’ve been coming to this site. I always thought that Shinzo movie would be the king of crap on here. I haven’t seen this, nor do I want to. My personal worst anime that I’ve ever seen was a stupid little PSA OVA called Ijime, and I feel that one is worthy of a 0/100 rating more than anything.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      As I said in the review, its a pretty personal rating. There are anime objectively worse but to me this is the worst.

    • Anthony Wu says:

      Change in authorship means change in the numbers.

      I’m sure psgels would have rated it above a 0/100, had psgels continued to maintain this blog.

      That said, the show is pretty clearly garbage. I’m one of the folks who finds it a pity that the experimentation didn’t pay off, but I agree with Aidan – at some point the writer tipped over the scales of trial and error into pure error territory.

      I’d recommend that anime geeks watch episode 1, and then stop. It tells you everything you need to know about whether breakneck pacing works or not for you. If for some reason episode 1’s trainwreck makes you want to watch more, you’ll probably like the series. Just don’t watch more on the premise that maybe it’ll get “better”. It definitely does not. It stays just as confusing, just as filled with tell-don’t-show, and the characters are just as prone to shouting randomly.

  2. meow says:

    Just throwing in my two cents here. The only part about this review I agree with wholeheartedly is the motormouth exposition. This story was on fast forward, trying to squeeze a very long, complex story into a single season, which, as expected, caused some derailing. I’m not ready to call it a full train wreck yet though. I did enjoy it more than Chaos;Head. It helps that I was already expecting some of the twists of this mystery, having already seen the likes of Robotic;Notes and Steins;Gate. Setting up a supernatural horror while in fact intending for a contemporary sci-fi mystery. It’s nothing that breaks a lot of new ground but I could follow the plot somewhat, including the purpose of the dutch shots to raise tension in an otherwise mundane conversation. The creators wanted the audience confused, to keep them guessing. We saw this technique in stuff like Hyouka too. The pacing there was much slower but I admit there I only could figure out what the story was talking about after watching the whole thing to it’s conclusion and then tracing back. I blame my poor Japanese. XD Hyouka’s pacing was, of course, much slower but stuff talked about in one episode would come around to explain itself again somewhat later is seen again here. I did like the occult plot twist later and I found it good that all the pieces left behind in previous episodes would come back to form a full picture in the end, with some deus ex machina to force some pieces in. I wouldn’t put this show on the same level as Hyouka though. And didn’t hit the high bar Steins;Gate set. But it wasn’t bad for me. It’s just a real pity that they had to squeeze way too much into too little time. I suppose a cliffhanger season ending mid-story might not have worked. I don’t think we have any complaints on production values, which I thought were top notch. Did anybody play the visual novel on pc/playstation? Any comparison between the two mediums?

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      This show was based on a light novel with only two volumes out currently so saying they have no time is no excuse. There is a game coming at a later date. But as I said, it doesn’t matter if you give this more time because the mystery is broken, none of it makes any sense. You say you have difficultly following it, well I could follow it. Hence why I see so many more cracks in the veneer. If you actually sit down and think about it, nothing in this story makes any sense.

      • meow says:

        No I didn’t have difficulty following O9. There was only one major surprise for me a third of the way through when they started hearing their names on tv. I was comparing it to Hyouka, which did get me confused. I wasn’t aware the game wasn’t out yet. Could have sworn I saw a VN version out on japan’s playstation store way back when.

        O9 has a bizarre unreal premise to be sure, much like inventing a cellphone that can send sms messages through time but it seems to hold together for me.

        Nonsensically unrealistic, sure but well, not more so than a boy travelling to alternate fantasy dimensions to battle witch cultists, etc. It’s not terribly hard to swallow. The only real issue I have is that it’s on fast forward. The characters are literally speed-talking, trying to get their nuances in while also pushing a rather complicated plot. There’s not enough time for the cake to set so it’s coming out half-baked. They rushed to many plot points out, including stuff like the spiritual time limit to snap back in time with the right stimulation and somehow self-resuscitating 10 minutes after actually drowning. Would have liked a long scene on that alone of a touch and go situation of one or two of those characters struggling to resuscitate, succeeding and dragging the rest to safety. Sigh. If they just had more time to get the pacing right…

        But there was enough good stuff in there to make it an ok show for me. Well, to each his own, i guess.

        • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

          No Meow. No. I am not saying this story makes no sense because it has supernatural elements. Fiction doesn’t have to be realistic, but it does have to be feasible. What I mean by sit down and think about it, is for you to sit down and think about why the characters in this show do what they do. Then you will see how little sense this show actually makes.

          Why did the evil organization kill over 200 people to test some chemical when they could have grabbed some cultists or homeless people and test without causing a media frenzy and the need for a massive cleanup? Why did Ryo-tas wait until the very last minute to reveal herself to Gamotan? How in the hell did that little boy overpower people and turn them into raspberry jam? How did he even drag them to his secret underground lair without anyone noticing? Who the hell even built it and why? Even if you try to explain this stuff it could only come across as either contrived or nonsensical.

          I refuse to give this show any merit. It’s trash.

          Lastly: “Nonsensically unrealistic, sure but well, not more so than a boy travelling to alternate fantasy dimensions to battle witch cultists, etc.”
          Really? You jump right for the obvious comparison to try and make me rethink this? Choosing this is just weak mate. Might as well throw in a comparison to Fate/Stay Night while you are at it.

          • meow says:

            Wow. You’re really pissed at this show. XD Okay. Okay. I’ve said my piece. But to answer some of your questions…

            Why did the evil organization kill over 200 people to test some chemical when they could have grabbed some cultists or homeless people and test without causing a media frenzy and the need for a massive cleanup?

            This scene got the audience to sit up and take notice. Very high dramatic effect. Like a bomb going off down the street. Something serious is happening. This isn’t a school occult club looking for the 7 Mysteries in Town anymore. It worked for me. And who guessed it would be a set up for the next whammy. How many of you guys guessed that there was something strange about how the reporter’s colleagues completely ignored her? Or the detective, for that matter? And btw, they did experiment on their own. At least two characters were children of key personnel. They were under observation for years to the point where one of them had a code name because of his abnormal properties. The moon bar was a special observation platform just for him along with techs at hq that could instantly tell every time Gamotan got a shot from Ryo-tas’s Tesla pistol. The rest were probably randomly selected residents within the same control area. Notice how conveniently they could all be disposed of at the same spot, instead of 200 mysterious deaths all over the country. Remember, one of the objectives of the experiment includes mind control over living people. I’d say they had that down pat cos they managed to get 200 people to unconsciously commit suicide.

            Why did Ryo-tas wait until the very last minute to reveal herself to Gamotan?

            Dramatic effect? Needed Gamotan to gather enough pieces on his own so they could get their objectives to align enough? Ryo-tas had to rely on the mysterious radio voice to coerce Gamotan into doing some waaaay out things, including extracting the tooth out of a murder victim’s body. Would Ryo-tas laying all the cards out from the beginning have worked? “Gamotan, please go get this really important gadget out of this newly murdered guy’s mouth to save the world. Pretty please? You can touch my boobs.” Remember how frustrated she was when Gamotan refused to go out to look for Miyu.

            How in the hell did that little boy overpower people and turn them into raspberry jam? How did he even drag them to his secret underground lair without anyone noticing? Who the hell even built it and why?

            Cookie cutter serial killer side plot? There’s any number of ways for this to work. Helps that the victims are all young girls who see no harm in walking down dark lonely alleys alone in Japan, maybe? Do you watch Criminal Minds? There’s like a new serial killer every week. Honestly, I didn’t really want to know the gory details. I think this whole side plot was to flesh out the whole cursed box legend to get under the audience’s skin. That there were multiple previous boxes was probably just added shock value. The guy was collecting cursed boxes like cardfight vanguard cards. Gee…nice picture they’re painting there.

            Not sure about the secret room under the monument. Is that terribly important? Maybe they just wanted to invent a fascinating fiction about there being a secret facility under a famous real-life monument for dramatic effect? A lot of the story seems to be based on real urban or folktale legends. That whole cursed box tale sounds authentic somehow cos it’s presented like it’s common knowledge.

            Happy New Year 2017. Looking forward to a lot more Fate. Btw, ***SPOILER***: That furry in FGO showed up in a different form in Tsukihime. You will probably hate it even more after you find out who/what it is. Even harder to swallow than o9 maybe.

  3. Vonter says:

    You mean to tell me this show it’s worse than Cross Ange!? :O

    I wonder if at some point the internet will have a reverse score system distinguishing from the enjoyably bad, to the irritating, to the boring and to the worse of all, the offensively bad.

  4. Jedman says:

    I bet psgels would have liked this.

    Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean that the show is bad or that other people won’t enjoy it.

    Ive been pleasantly surprised I actually quite like this show.

    Just goes to show how a lot of Anime reviews are overly subjective and people shouldn’t judge things without trying them themselves.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      Sigh…yep, and Psgels never liked bad shows before.
      Just because I don’t like a show or a show being poorly written doesn’t mean I didn’t understand it. And no matter how bad an anime is there is bound to be someone who enjoys it.

      “Just goes to show how a lot of Anime reviews are overly subjective and people shouldn’t judge things without trying them themselves.”

      That’s common sense though it’s unreasonable to try everything just on the off chance of it being your thing. So it’s better to not base your judgements solely on one opinion. Generally if a lot of people don’t like something then there’s a good reason for it.

  5. jedman says:

    Fair enough, but 0 out of 100 though?

    Even if you don’t like this Anime you can’t deny the Art and music are both pretty decent.

    I just feel like most Anime fans are overly critical and negative to the point where if I went by most peoples opinions, the majority of Anime is considered bad and I wouldn’t watch anything.

    A lot of people just jump on the hate train without giving shows a chance, if an Anime is flawed in even the smallest of ways people start hating on it despite the fact it may be mostly good.

    It’s like most Anime fans are highly negative people who complain and hate on everything they can.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      To quote the review: “I am certain this may seem like an extreme rating for some but the number scale always has been something I only carried over as part of psgels format. But this rating exemplifies my feelings about this show in its entirety.”

      I get that objectively it’s not the worst anime in existence but on a personal level I have never hated a show so viciously like this one. I did not enjoy this, not one bit.

      Opinions on the internet are often one of two extremes. It’s either the nectar of the gods or the abomination of creative thought. There isn’t really a middle ground because the middle-ground is hard to truly hard to form an opinion on. Hence why you wouldn’t see many defend a show that’s flawed but has some good points.

      Best not to take it too seriously. Those that spout hate like that are often playing it up in order to be funny or just to vent out frustration. It’s not just anime fans that do that, frankly it’s fans of anything.

  6. Jedman says:

    I don’t understand how you can watch 12 episodes of something you don’t like lol, I would give up a few episodes in.

  7. Jedman says:

    I kinda enjoyed this but felt a bit frustrated by the fast forward pacing towards the end. The story really could have done with a lot more space to breathe. So it is disappointing how rushed this was, still not the worst Anime ive ever seen just very rushed.

  8. Jedman says:

    I agree with what you said about how it tries to tug at your heartstrings when the characters were talking at 100 miles an hour, I don’t think I felt anything for the characters due to the fast forward pacing.

  9. movies4life says:

    Well, I disagree with you guys.
    I try lots of time to watch the first 3 episodes because I fall in sleep and the characters who met in a bar were boring and stupid and make no sense (Student detective?)e
    But after the third episode, they find out that they all died, dead and lost souls where nobody can see them.
    Later they find out that the time goes differently for them.
    I spoil the story because your rating let people, not them self-decide.
    I GET ENTERTAINED, and that’s what important.

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      You spoil the story for people to get people to check it out for themselves? You just ruined two of the biggest twists the series has to offer, what reason do they have to check it out now? To find out the explanations behind those twists? Cause believe me the logic behind them makes no sense and is just really goddamn stupid.

  10. movies4life says:

    …..But entertaining…

  11. Jedman says:

    Spoilers are not cool.

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Now anon, that reminds me, Ash was apparently based off River Phoenix.
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If they ever make a live action Banana Fish, they should cast Kevin Spacey as Dino.
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I didn't know double decker was supposed to be related to tiger and bunny.
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@Mario: I'll be starting shoujo kageki in a few hours.
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Needless to say, while this season has been a bit underwhelming, I have like 3 favorite shows that might end up on my Top 10 of the year list.
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SUPER-MAOrio =P
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Regarding RErideD and Double Decker, I'm in no rush checking them out now. Will do that after this season wraps up
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Regarding politic, my dad was a Communist so he was pretty tight-lipped when it comes to the topic. Most of the things I learned from how the system works is by listening to him and his colleagues talk over while drinking
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Regarding Ash, yeah it strikes me the same as Ash is is way too perfect in everything (the new talent we found out the last few episodes: superhacker). When he said to Eiji that he never wanted that "gift" in the first place, I honestly don't know which one he was referring to
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I may aswell finish it given that that its the last episode.
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So Planet With ends and the madman actually did it. Besides needing a bit more of a epilogue, that was a great finale.
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@Animosh: I try to understand, make sense of the other sides views within reason.
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I really want a successful fantasy go on an adventure style show though, I feel like I'm genuinely in the mood for one, I've actually considered watching some old ovas of that nature.
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@Animosh: The most common thing my father and I talk about is Brexit really and how once upon a time we actually went after tyrants.
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And even though I have the God thing, never became a burn the witches kind of person. I do want to put the far right/fascist people in gulags though lol
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The Kaiser thing, now that I think about it is actually really odd, I speak minimal German, am no monarchist and am a leftist. Yet even though I hate the bougoiuse , I love aristocratic costumes lol
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Then again, it may not be overly odd, there were Maoist priests.
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@Kaiser-Eoghan: This is pretty common here too. Organized religion isn't popular but most people believe there is a God and, depending on the person and cultural background, that parts of the holy books are true (or not, if they're real agnostics), usually in a metaphorical sense though.
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*upbringing
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That mixed upbringoing of having a communist father and religious relatives is an interesting thing.....for all of the exploitation I watch, I ctually feel nunsploitation is going too far lol I also sometimes check with my dad before watching certain things to make sure it isn't "too anti-left/anti socialist".
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@Animosh: No problem. I think it depends a bit on how people were brought up decades ago. It's probably different nowadays, no idea. The arguing was kinda fun though, especially for the teen me (I bet I annoyed the shit out of my father).
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Yet having no regard for organized religion.
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I however am a mutt though, believer in some kind of a God to an extent....while also having communist sympathies.
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@Animosh@Amagi: As it stands neither my mother or brother are communists, actually my mother while very left wing would criticize my father when going "too communist". My parents and my brother are the only members of my family who could be considered leftist/non-religious.
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@Animosh: Planet With definetely needs some sort of epilogue OVA. You can somewhat guess the dragon's story but it's not the same as seeing it and there are still a few of semi-loose strings like the people who are still dreaming.
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@Amagi: my apologies for my presumptuousness. ;) My mother occasionally also participated in political discussions, but yeah, for some reason it's often men who have strong political opinions and are not willing to admit defeat in discussions.
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Also I don't spoil anything but the last minutes of the first episode just feel stupid. I think/hope there will be an explanation later for how something has worked so perfectly that shouldn't have worked at all. In general it seems to be a show that tries hard but can't deliver for some reason. I won't completely judge it yet though.
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Planet With also wrapped up things nicely. Unfortunately the dragon remains a bit underdeveloped, which makes it difficult for me to care about his fate, and I would have liked to see at least the main ship officially confirmed, but other than that it was an excellent finale that satisfactorily ties up all loose ends. This is how you do a one-cour.
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It's a bit late, but Hanebado is finally giving me what I wanted from the show: tense, well-animated badminton matches. The match does feel a bit rushed, the overexplaining can be annoying and there's still plenty of melodrama, but it's a lot more enjoyable than what we got in the previous weeks at least.
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will be seeing what kind of flaws Ash has. Also, I think this way of characterizing him also fits into the narrative. This strength that Ash has is what pushes his gang members away and see him not as a normal human, but a "king."
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That was some interesting insight on Ash as a "perfect" person. While I do think that Banana Fish shows that Ash is an extremely capable person time and time again, he cannot win this "war" alone. There's too many enemies and too many things that need to be done. Also, I think as we get further on into the second cour, we
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Also, it's neat watching the first few episodes again after what goes down throughout the first half of the series; you get to see all of the characters together before everything blows up in their face.
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When I say perfect characterization, I should say I mean the way he's characterized as this perfect supremely capable person. The other characters do help reveal other aspects of Ash though: Eiji is his age and allows him to be a normal teenager; Max is like a surrogate father and lets him act like a son; Arthur and Dino are kind of evil inverses of that.
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When I say perfect charac
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Anyways, not to hate on Ash because he's still a fantastic main lead and anchors the whole show. It's just that because he loses sometimes I push some of the problems of his perfect characterization to the side, but when you actually think about it, he seems more like a character than a real person.
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Also the fact that Ash has been through a super tragic backstory doesn't help a lot: it seems like the writers are trying to make him a character who has been through all the tragedy in the world and has overcome it and became the most skilled person in the world. I will say though that any onscreen tragedy is 100% believable, it just some of the flashbacks that are a bit too much.
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I guess that slightly cheapens Ash's character on retrospection: of course he is still the charismatic lead, but he feels a bit too perfect at everything. Dino must have taught him quite a bit, but Ash is skilled in, like, everything. It just seems a bit too much.
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Like the whole Yut-Lung Shorter Eiji situation was beyond Ash (in fact he still knew something was off but couldn't pinpoint what); that wasn't really a mistake Ash made, it was just that he couldn't have known the secret connections Yut-Lung had.
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Something I noticed about Ash is that he is, as some of you pointed out, a Gary Stu but it doesn't immediately jump at you. The thing is that Ash still loses quite a bit, so he doesn't seem invincible, yet at the same I think the majority of his losses were beyond his control. It doesn't feel like he makes mistakes, rather that other people outmaneuver him due to factors beyond him.
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@Kaiser & Amagi: I also had lots of political discussions with my father. Didn't know that was such a common occurrence. Boys will be boys I guess? And he's actually a former Marxist too, having grown up in the 60's-70's and all. Now he's just a boring socialist though. ;)
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RErideD seemed really promising in theory: an original time travel anime written (at least in part) by Abe, with the director of Steins;Gate in charge? Count me in. But unfortunately the reviews so far seem to be uniformly negative. So I'll probably avoid it for now.
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Four episodes of RErideD: Tokigoe no Derrida got uploaded at the same time earlier.
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Its just a saturday, so busy. And Kaiser, nice. Gonna go to the con at all?
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As a writer for it, I dont believe so?
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They used to realease them like single American comic book issues in the west.
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I'm not talking bound volumes but actual 20-30 pages chapters and these would be expensive.
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Or things like Mischief makers .
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I was also always discussing about politics with my father. Whenever we started with this my mother just said "porca putana" and went into another room to watch tv in peace.
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@Animemosh: lol I have daily political discussion with my Marxist-Leninist father just like that =)
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Oh I should state, even though I'm not as bothered by the modern setting, I actually do prefer the cold war narrative.
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@Animosh: The documentries name was Battle of Chile by Patricio Guzman.
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Especially since I don't think that the typical BF audience is of a kind that would lose interest because a series is taking place in the past. It was just written for the 80s, people can't just change that without changing the story itself to some degree.
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@Animosh: I thought the anime did such a good job with Shio's backstory , that I didn't miss what was omitted. The anime is now up to date with the scans. I do agree that Satou's obsession with Shio is non-pedophilic but I think the scene itself is kind of going to give the wrong message.
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@Animosh: one of the many reasons why I would have prefered Banana Fish's original setting.
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By the way, apparently the backstory of Shio's mother - which supposedly is really tragic - was largely skipped. Guess I'll have to read the manga.
Animosh
I get what they're going for, recreating the ritual and all, but I also thought the Shio-Satou moment was a bit forced. I still think their relationship is platonic though. Satou has never been shown to lust after Shio: she just fills her with warmth and happiness. They're more like messed up siblings than (romantic) lovers.
Animosh
@Kaiser: sounds interesting! Chile is an excellent example of the kind of Cold War intervention that I really don't see happening today. Although you never know with an impulsive narcissist in the White House.
Animosh
End of monologue. Sorry about this. :p
Animosh
Long story short: I think the Banana Fish conspiracies fail to adequately represent the current situation. At the very least, it fits the Cold War world order much better.
Animosh
That includes the US (backing the Kurds and the rebels), but also Turkey and the Arab states (Sunni rebels), Russia and Iran (Assad), and so on and so forth. You can't act like this is the fault of one party. Hell, I'd say Russia and Assad are more responsible for failing to a peaceful resolution when they had the chance.
Animosh
As for Syria, it's a mess, but the US is only one of many parties responsible. And oil isn't particularly important in this conflict. It's a civil war that's been made much worse by the influx of money and weapons from many different parties vying for regional influence.
Animosh
So what does it do? It gives military and financial backing to militias with shared interests (which is much less than Russia does, by the way), orders drone strikes, and perhaps the occasional tactical strike. But overthrowing countries and setting up puppet regimes? I don't see it happening. That's basically declaring war on the other big powers.
Animosh
And even when it does intervene militarily, it rarely goes all out. The US has learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. It doesn't want to be dragged into another endless conflict, or see its efforts end in another brutal civil war that destabilizes the region.
Animosh
So although the US occasionally still intervenes militarily in other countries' affairs, other means of pressure are now more popular. The sanctions against Iran and North Korea are a good example of this.
Animosh
The current landscape is much more complex. America is still powerful, of course, but relatively speaking it is in decline, and that means it can get away with much less. Today's world is closer to a multipolar world, with many sides fighting for influence. And because the ideological conflict is much less pronounced, the US is much less willing to go against its purported values.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Coincidentally I recently watched a series of Chilean documentaries regarding the murder of Salvador Allende and the installation of the Pinochet Junta.
Animosh
And that meant both that America was far more powerful than it is now, and that much more intervention was considered acceptable - including shamelessly backing dictators that oppressed and exploited their people. After all, a defeat meant evil would prevail.
Animosh
Obviously the US still interferes in other countries. Quite a lot, actually. But there's a big difference between its current policy and that during the Cold War. Back then the geopolitical landscape was very different. It was bipolar, with two big Isms (capitalism and communism) fighting it out.
Animosh
@anon: not sure if this is the right place for a political discussion, but whatever. I like politics, so here we go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*was no exception
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: If, out of the many moments in happy sugar life that I'd consider unsettling, it would be the one's with the aunt and this weeks episode was an exception. That last part of the episode will be interpreted as shoujo-ai bait by people though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Looking forward to Angels of death next week, I think we're getting answers, glad to get answers on bad guy even if he is a simple villain.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now this is an interesting coincidence as last night I just got done watching a documentary about cyberwarfare against Iran.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Thats alot more detailed than what I was going to say. I was just going to say that it reflects current foreign policy.
Anonymous2808488
however the current stalemate in Syria is a reflection of the intransigence of the monied elite to not let go of ill-gotten gains, constantly provoking conflict with Russia/Assad/Iran
Anonymous2808488
Its a documented fact the US/EU promoted the Arab Spring/ISIS rebellions and it was stopped by patriots with a conscience
Anonymous2808488
replace with the mexican cartels/Hezbollah, and oil money promised to Cheney-connected Genie enerrgy
Anonymous2808488
its a pretty accurate description of the current reality minus a couple silly things like the mafia and mind control drugs
Anonymous2808488
You guys realize this plot is unfolding in Syria just replace drugs with oil money
Lenlo
Its hokey in the now, but in the original context the series was written, the Cold War, I think it could fit really well.
Animosh
@Kaiser: what felt awkward to you? I thought the pumpkin stuff in particular was pretty hilarious. Eiji is an evil guy. :p
Animosh
Yeah, the conspiracy stuff feels a bit wacky in the present. But in the context of the Cold War, it makes perfect sense. The USA supported plenty of bloody coups after all, especially in Latin America. Hell, they even backed the Taliban in their war against Russia.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In the future I want to make a bigger effort to follow MORE of whats being covered on here seasonally.
Kaiser-Eoghan
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Red
https://manganelo.com/manga/red_naoki_yamamoto Two history manga, wonder if they'll be fully translated.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine most will probably agree with you anon though. I have alien taste/opinions. I also love conspiracy stuff =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Originally, in the manga version of that part, it was attacking communism in south America.
Anonymous2805624
I don't know; I kinda find the whole Middle East stuff a bit hokey; maybe that's just me.
Lenlo
Im about to watch it. Looking forward to it
Kaiser-Eoghan
I know its only one line, but that they still mention skip and shorter, even its just their names, at least the show keeps them in mind.
Kaiser-Eoghan
With episode 12, Banana fish has successfully contemporized its political/cospiracy aspect for me . Eiji is semi-uselful. Humour in this episode for the first time feels awkward, fast pace kind of means that the quieter slower scenes , though I still enjoy them, feel slotted in.
Lenlo
Most of my emotions this week came because of the original and my love of it, not this one
Lenlo
I agree, Steins;Gate 0 had all the potential, and there are some specific episodes that realized it. Like this episode had a lot of touching scenes cause it slowed down to play up Okabe's relationship with Amadeus. But most of the time, it fails to reach that potential. So as a whole it just feels... lacking
Kaiser-Eoghan
Plebs, not combining both into a single dessert.
Anonymous2802297
I'm talking about that sweet saccharine Chocolate Mousse, the Ganache, or the Chocolate Gâteau. Your puny muffin stands no chance. Mwahaha!
Anonymous2802297
Blasphemy. As a proud American, I can't stand for anything less than pure unadulterated diabetes-inducing sugar in chocolatey cake form. Anything less is an insult to my great nation. /s
SuperMario
@anon2801739: that's a nice analogy but I can't say I agree as I prefer chocolate muffin much more than chocolate cake :)))
Anonymous2801739
Steins;gate 0 is all potential but generally it's wasted. Whenever it actually seems promising they manage to jump plot points to boring nonsensical melodrama for a century. It was supposed to be a chocolate cake. Instead what we got was a muffin with tiny chocolate chips buried few and far between. Yeah it's still sweet at some points, but most of the time you're chewing through pointless fluff.
Lenlo
Like I said in my last post on it I think, the pacing is fucked
Animosh
I did like that the lab members finally acted like scientists again, methodically thinking through their options and all, and there were some pretty touching individual moments and nicely tied up ends. But mostly I'm just annoyed by all the unfulfilled potential of this show.
Animosh
I also hated the backtracking in the beginning. Don't make such a big deal of The Return if you're going to throw it out of the window in the next episode.
Animosh
I really don't understand Steins;Gate's pacing. It slows down to a trickle in the largely irrelevant middle part, and now that things are finally getting somewhat interesting again it just speeds through everything without building things up properly? I don't get it. And how on Earth are they going to resolve everything satisfactorily in one episode?
KTravlos
Reinhard (old series). Ash is interesting and depicted well, but not close to Reinhard. There is something noble in Reinhard, something beyond charisma.
Anonymous2797046
In a charisma battle between our two favorite Blond Boys (doing what blond boys do), who'd win: Reinhard or Ash?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Kind of felt this is what prelude penultimate episode/calm before the storm episode should be and I liked quite liked the ginko and souya scene, but I'm still eh, I shrug at this.
Vonter
After watching some more Star vs. the forces of evil. I'm getting Jitsu wa Watashi wa vibes. The Sailor Moon-like character episode was cute.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The bullying arc in sangatsu made me want to shootup the school.
Lenlo
I will admit, the family life stuff is less engaging than the crippling depression, but I dont think that would hit as hard with out the relaxing bits in between. Dont want to overload the audience.
Anonymous2791561
3-gatsu no Lion has its ups and downs; its ups are the intense emotional drama or shogi matches, while it's downs are the more relaxed slice of life food porn stuff. When I say up and down, I don't necessarily mean good and bad, just more about the intensity. I personally found that I could enjoy both styles, but sometimes I'd find the slice of life stuff dragging on.
SuperMario
Well, I regard 3-gatsu as one of the best character-writing in this medium in recent years. As for shaft, I'm their fan but even me was worried when I learnt Shaft adapting this. They did a nice job thankfully
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though I was glad that the comedy becomes more reigned in later on.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I got used to the tonally discordant humour eventually, accepting that the show essentially exists in two plains.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In tsukiyomi moon phase Shinbo made some of the shots look like photos, which was cool given the protaganists profession. Their weird style also was a good fit for an oddball show like Zetsubou-sensei.
Lenlo
I just finished the 4th episode, and so far I am torn on Akari. Im still not sure what to make of some of these relationships. I love the permeated depression theme in every episode though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wonder if it will get a third season.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I want Akari to be my mom.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm only 9 out of 13 volumes adapted, which means the anime hasn't adapted the best bit.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Unfortunate that the sangatsu manga doesn't update often.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't seen it, I heard that vocaloid thing shaft adapted was very poorly suited to their style.
Lenlo
If a drama can actually make me feel something, actual emotions, then its a success. But it takes a pretty good, well made drama to do that.
Lenlo
I am very particular about my Drama'
Lenlo
Im planning on burning through the whole thing in the next few days. Maybe then ill try the manga, since there is probably more
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I didn't think your lie in April or sangatsu would actually be your thing. They're very drama-ey.
Lenlo
Basically im with Kaiser on this one. As for Shaft, I am very show by show with them. I couldnt stand Nisekoi, yet Sangatsu's color palette and way of drawing faces really has me
Lenlo
See, so far it has a very Mushishi/Fune wo Amu/Your Lie in April feel to me. I love these kinds of things animated, because I feel the music and color-choices really help set things in the mood.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario@Lenlo: We can be Kanabros for life all three of us ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
But in general I do think shafts style lends itself at its best to more comedic work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I actually felt that shafts style elevated their adaptation of Sangatsu. I find it easier to watch these slow paced shows than reading them. Also Kana Hanazawa.
SuperMario
Shaft's style can be a hit or miss with the audience, however. While I don't mind that, I still would recommend you try the manga instead
SuperMario
Oh, so you still have, like, 40 episodes left
Lenlo
Huh. Finally got around to March Comes in Like a Lion, gotta say. 3 episodes in, its pretty good
Kaiser-Eoghan
Speaking of it though, I wish they'd get that proposed new Vampire hunter D anime off the ground.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though my memory on this is extremely fuzy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know, I saw an article there on anime news network referring to the second vampire hunter D film, I know I watched it years and years ago, loved it, but I forget the plot, thinking about it now, how was the dude D was after supposed to survive without blood after buggering off to space alone with the girl?
Anonymous2786239
Amen to that
Anonymous2785164
I read blogs to see opinions on anime, not to read about how blog writer is much better than some youtuber I probably have never heard of :D
Anonymous2785164
Anyway, don't any of you guys let that get up to your head :p I'm also annoyed whenever media producers start mocking each other and setting themselves up as better.
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