Posted by SuperMario on 12 February 2018 with categories: 2011 Anime Retrospective

It’s me, Mario again, for an update of the 2010 Retro Summary. Like I mentioned last time, 27 shows were watched, eliminated/picked based on how much I like to follow them till the end.


SHOWS THAT WERE DECIDED BY THEIR PREMIERE EPISODE:

10 shows are eliminated, while 4 shows are picked during this period.

IS: Infinite Stratos: Easily the blandest debut for this 2011 retrospective, thank you IS (short for It’s Shit) for making my job of dropping shows fairly easily.  Right at the beginning we have a fight that we have absolutely no idea about, all the girls flash their moves and the main guy finishes it off. Then my little interest is drained when I learn the facts that 1) this mecha fight is supposed to be a sport game and 2) somehow our main IS the only male who can drive this thing, make him an automatic winner in girls’ eyes. I dropped out this one fast. OUT

Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?: I find the whole premise dull rather than funny, and the show already features a girl naked in several occasions, which never is a good sign. A main guy is having a harem of eccentric and downright annoying girls, while himself doesn’t fare much better to stand out. OUT

Mayo Chiki: The fact that right after just one day since I watched this I have a hard time recalling the plot should tell you how much I care for this show. Let’s see, a guy who “by chance” sees a crossdressing girl in her underwear, grabs her boob and that said girl vows to kill him before comes to live with him. Nah, nah, NAH. Why do you have to rely on such cliché crap, anime medium? OUT

Kimi to Boku: This one is more “cute boys doing cute things” and I must admit I’m not within the target demography for this. There are some strong moments about friendship but I have a hard time caring for any of those guys, especially the male lead. The animation is especially lackluster. Dropped. OUT

Beezebub: One of two shows about the son of Great Evil messing up with simple daily life. It has some amusing laugh and that kid is a delight but is it good enough for me to burn through its 60 episodes? No, Also I find the humor a bit bland at times. OUT

Ben-To: Only anime can make a series out of such ridiculous premise: about a bunch of “professional hunters” who hunt… half price bento in a supermarket. And because it’s anime, characters are the types you’ve seen in other shows before, the action and the violence are over the top and ridiculous. I’m in a camp who buying a full price bento anyway so I guess I don’t see the appeal of this show. OUT

Phi Brain: This first episode plays out well the puzzle aspect of the show, otherwise it’s serviceable. If it was a current seasonal show I can continue to watch it, but for the purpose of this summary there are literally 30 plus other shows that worth watching more. I still don’t really like the main lead, who is your typical shounen protagonist that can easily leave his friend behind in the quest of becoming stronger. Another problem with this show is with the guy who already overpowered like this, it takes out all the suspension the puzzles might have had. OUT

SKET Dance: The last two shows are a good example of using a “false protagonist”, that is a main guy who becomes less relevant as the episode goes on. I found this SKET club rather charming with formulaic team members: a brain – a muscle – an info guy but the case in question in this episode leaves a lot to be desired. For once, I don’t buy the bullying aspect at all and that machine voice from the info guy gets on my nerve every time. Could be a decent watch but once again it just doesn’t stand out enough for me to spend time watching 77 episodes of it. OUT

Yuru Yuri: Like the title suggests it’s yuri banter all the way. I like some of its satire aspects, like the fact the main character is constantly ignored for her lack of presence. Or the yuri banter can get out of hand in a hilarious way. Still, there is no real plot and that is a huge issue since it sometimes feels it goes nowhere. Not cute enough for me to spend more time with, it seems. OUT


C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control: By all mean it’s not the perfect first episode, given I have a feeling its thematic ambitions swallow whole its characters and the plot. But what an interesting theme. It has something to say about the value of currency and money and I’m in for the drive to see what it wants to explore. The visual so far compliments the show greatly but the characters aren’t that interesting or relatable. Still, it’s a promising start with a bold concept. IN

Shouwa Monogatari: From more than 50 shows I compile for this summary, this one is the least known title. It flies under the radar from most anime watchers and as far as I know only psgels here covered it during its air and thus bring it to my attention (thanks man). Storytelling wise it’s the most solid one in this list, with quiet and simple depiction of a normal family during the year of the Japan Olympic. I dig the shot of actual footage from the modern-ay scenery, then back to the real footage from its showa period and then the animated version of it. Make you feel the great passage of time. I’m still a bit wary about its use of CG, however, as it’s distracts the flow of otherwise limited hand-drawn animation the show is known for. This one is a keeper. IN

Haganai: To be frank I have a soft spot for Light Novel Adaptation and so far this one uses its LN’s advantage pretty well. The dialogue is reasonably enjoyable and the premise of creating a club of loner is a plausible, if not totally refreshing, concept. I know it will go for more cliché route based on the OP (1 guy and how many girls?) but so far I’m sold with what it’s selling here. IN

Tamayura Hitotose: slice-of-life is my jam, slice-of-life is my bread and butter. This one admittedly doesn’t offer much outside of its genre but for what it does, it does beautifully. The soothing atmosphere is displayed wonderfully and the photographs taken as reserving those moments speak very well to its theme. I’m happy to watch more solid slice of life like this anytime. IN


SHOWS THAT WERE DECIDED BY THEIR SECOND EPISODE:

7 shows were determined at this stage, 4 were dropped and 3 more got their tickets to the final round.

Deadman Wonderland: Along with shows like Attack on Titan, Deadman Wonderland is a show where its best part lies at the start, and then it will get stupid very, very fast. This one already feels dull after just 2 episodes. What I found the most welcome surprise is the well-crafted production from Manglobe (seriously, the more I watch their old shows the more admiration I have for this late-studio). This show seems to underline the messed-up system the characters live in, but what I get so far instead is the message “Don’t trust anyone”. People act cruel to others for the sake of their own amusement. And when one of a guy declares outright “I will rape you and kill you some day”, what should I take from this? Is it because the system creates such a twisted personality or only individual who downright evil can survive in that world? I honestly don’t care either way. OUT

Kamisama Dolls: I must admit this show caught me off-guard since based solely on the poster, I could never have guessed there will be supernatural, conspiracy, murder and some more dark elements mixed in. But then the show never quite settles on its tone, and the story still feels pretty loose right now. It seems the main developments will be about the main guy going through his trauma, and his little sister comes to master the “God” (more like a puppet if you ask me), which frankly I don’t have any interest in either of them. I am mixed on the ecchi aspect as well and the comedy falls flat. Sorry but it still isn’t good enough to guarantee a spot for the main list. OUT

Fractacle: I can appreciate the level of details into its setting, but other than that this show is very uneven. Plot-wise it’s just too inconsistent, character-wise they’re all one-note and production-wise it’s just on par. The worst offender for me is the girl and two guys who seem to be from 101 Dalmatians than belong to the show. It’s the first dropped noitaminA show and I suspect it won’t be the only one. OUT

Un-Go: yeah, the second dropped noitaminA show. I am a bit intrigued with the settings but neither the cases, or the characters are good enough to keep my interest. Those murders have some twist and turn but they feel too condensed that they never feel flesh out enough. Those main characters have little to no chemistry to each other and the overarching plot is still very muddy. It’s decent but it still doesn’t quite convince me to keep up with it. OUT


Yumekui Merry: Finally, this one is the last show I watched during the first-episode period so just get on with it, endure it for 20 minutes before put it aside and move on… Hang on a minute there, this one’s actually pretty good. The style reminds me a fair bit of Flip Flappers and for good reasons. The concept of blurring the dream and reality is one of my favorite theme and while I can see this show won’t be heavy on that front, I’m happy with what I see so far. To my surprise, the second episode is even better than the first, with some well-articulated drama from the main lead girl and the animation is always inspiring to say the least. I had absolutely no expectation coming to this so and it turns out to be my favorite show so far out of those 27 shows. Made me glad for all these efforts I’m taking so far. IN

Kamisama no Memochou: Wow, this double-length first episode is pretty solid. With this show (and one show below, along with Gosick), we now have 3 series about loli-girl who plays detective. Would be worthwhile just to see which show will eventually come on top. I like this modern-day setting and I found the two cases so far have its compelling parts. Also I enjoy the team dynamic so far, plus the chemistry between the main guy and Alice. Count me in to watch this till the end. IN

Dantalian no Shaka: Well, I didn’t expect this show is produced by Gainax since it feels very unlike their other projects and this was possibly their last big project before becoming the ghost of its own glory as we see now. Another show where loli girl plays detective and this one focus on literacy and the books that can bring magical power. I enjoy the cases and the settings so far, and thank god for one the main mail lead is likeable enough because at least he has brain. The titular girl can be annoying at times but in general I like what I see so far. Also really digging the slow, classical soundtrack. IN


SHOWS THAT WERE DECIDED BY THEIR THIRD EPISODE:

These final 7 shows were so close that I had quite a bit of difficult time shuffling around before this locking in with the list below. Another 4 shows were out and the last 3 shows made its way into the final list

Guilty Crown: It’s remarkable that even after 3 episodes I can’t relate to any of the show’s character. Admittedly I love design characters and the background arts of the show (the character designer of this show is the one who responsible for design of Beatless this season), but the show so far is just underwhelming. Cliché upon cliché (new transfer student, the main guy has is “the one” despite being a nobody, girl lives in his house), fanservice from left field and the story is like a patch-up jobs from other shows. All the characters are so one-note that they’re annoying on screen. The production is impressive, however, but why all good efforts for the show with no writing-talent at all? Such a crying shame. OUT

Blood-C: I swear I can’t keep my eyes of the art-style of Blood-C. Clamp’s unique character style of long limbs can put some new viewers off, but their appeal is so unmistakable. Blood-C also benefits from striking background arts and stellar fight sequences. But then, the story so far is so poorly-constructed. The characters have some of the most tedious dialogue I’ve seen this summary. I have a strong feeling they’re on purpose, with all these “normal activities” are purposely empty, repeatedly for something much more sinister underneath. But damnit, 3 episodes in and they still haven’t pull it off, and that’s not alright considered it’s only 1-cour show. I feel like I’m waiting for some twist that might never appear, which again test my patience and frankly with so many shows out there I just don’t think the wait is worth it. OUT

Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Boy, I kind of dismissed it upon reading the synopsis but it’s way better than I expected it to be, but it still has some glaring issues. Let’s talk about the good things first, I really love the manga business aspect of the show. Every time the team deals with their mangaka, or tries to check up the manuscript, are a total delight. It makes me want to pair this one up with Bakuman 2 for the two shows that del with manga industry – one from shoujo management point of view, the other one is shounen mangaka perspective. Perfect match, right? But it has a big big big issue, namely the BL aspect. No, I’m not bias against yaoi at all, in fact I’m craving for a good one, but this is not one of this. They go with the yaoi all the way here, and it’s not in a good way. In many instances we have the main guy downright harasses the other main by force-kiss him against his will. It makes for some good “Ah, they kiss” moment but when I think back about it, it isn’t that good of a romance, nor does I care much about it. A shame since I really love the other “manga industry” part of it, but the forced love is a deal-breaker for me here, and I suspect it will only get worse as time goes on. OUT

Zen Hemi: I came to this show with the knowledge of its OVAs and to be frank I wasn’t a fan of the OVAs. The show has some good tweaks about the notion of “pervert” and their behaviors, but at the end it feels rather twisted and somewhat mean-spirited. Well, to my surprise, the series so far fares so much better to me, given the fact that they tone down the experiments and make the characters more likable. It comes incredibly close to the final list (and I’m quite sad to see it goes), still I like the three qualified shows more so this one unfortunately has to go. OUT

Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko: I don’t deny this is just another Shaft’s joint but it’s exactly why I love every moment of it. The premise itself is hardly original, especially compare to other Shaft’s shows. It’s a tale about a boy (!) comes to small new town (!) and meets several eccentric girls (!), one of them claimed to be an alien (! Wouldn’t you know just a year previous, one of the main girl from Shaft’s Arakawa Under the Bridge claims herself to be a Venus. Surprise, Surprise) but it’s distinctively Shaft-feel with some appropriate and sharp direction and some deep into the characters themselves. Might end up being the most controversial pick here but I don’t care since I enjoyed what I’ve seen from start to finish. IN

Moshidora: This is the tale about a high school girl who use the real “Management” book to apply for her baseball club. Based on popular Light Novels, I must point out that the idea of using such book into a sport club is kinda… impractical. “Management” book is all about business and I can’t define baseball club as a business. They’re just never on the same page. But saying all that, seeing a high school girl tries to apply what written in the book to her own club’s situation has its own unique charm. I also like the feminist touch of having a girl run the club and raise the club to its success, so I’m on board to see how things will play out in the end. IN

Ao no Exorcist: The first episode admittedly didn’t do much to me, given I’m never much a fan of shounen story. There’s a mildly interesting premise and the animation quality is excellent, that’s all I can give. But I’m warming up with its later 2 episodes and I can see myself having fun watching them progress along the way. I still have problem with the main guy, who acts so impulsively that it’s sometimes irritating to watch. Given this is one of the most popular show of 2011 (MAL says it has the second most members of that year, just behind Steins:Gate) and my preferences have been quite under the radar-eccentric, it might not be a bad idea to mix thing up with something as bombastic as this. Who knows, maybe this one (and not Hunter x Hunter) will be the one that change my mind about shounen action show. Blue is indeed the warmest color IN


The final shortlist for the 2011 Anime Retrospective: (36 shows in total)

Winter:   Madoka – Wandering Son – Level E – Gosick – Supernatural the Animation – Yumekui Merry – Kimi no Todoke 2 – Mitsumodoe 2

Spring:     Steins;Gate – AnoHana – Nichijou – Tiger & Bunny – Hanasaku Iroha – Hyouge Mono – C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control – Ao no Exorcist – Shouwa Monogatari – Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko – Moshidora – Kaiji 2

Summer: Mawuru Penguindrum – Usagi Drop – The Idolmasters – Ikoku Meiro no Croisee – No.6 – Dantalian no Shaka – Kamisama no Memochou – Natsume 3

Fall:    Hunter x Hunter – Chihayafuru – Fate/Zero – Mirai Nikki – Haganai – Tamayura: Hitotose – Bakuman 2 – Working 2

Will some of those shows eventually blow up on my pretty face? Absolutely, but it’s the risk I’m willing to take. So what’s next, you wonder? Starting from next post, it’s the real thing. I’ll pick 2 shows to watch and review back to back. The two shows that will kick-off this summary are: Wandering Son and Tiger & Bunny – a sensitive depiction of crossdressers and an exploration to the nature of superhero; a masculine vs. feminime shows so to speak. If youhaven’t watched any of these, this might be a good time to catch up and join me for the next post. Expect it to come out in the next 2 or 3 weeks, as I can only watch those over the weekends. Until then.

5 Responses

  1. swa says:

    Damn that list, 2011 was an impressive year.

  2. llevron says:

    Blood-C isn’t good enough to stick with until the twist, but there is one and it is one hell of a twist. (And yes the dialogue is purposely that hamfisted to support the eventual reveal)

    • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

      The twist makes no sense whatsoever if you actually think about it though…

      • meow says:

        Did you guys ever get the chance to watch Blood the Last Vampire, the movie or play the original playstation 2 games or their psp rerelease? Pretty obscure now but those were the original template of Saya, way before they went on to do Blood+ and Blood C. Plus and C I consider new adaptations. Which did you prefer?

  3. meow says:

    I actually liked Ben-To a lot because living in Japan, expensive as it is, half-priced bentos can be an awesome lifesaver. It’s one of the last things I used to do at the end of the day, pop into a supermarket to check out the bargain bentos. Of course, this series is a complete comical exaggeration but I felt it was an original way to highlight of an old supermarket tradition that I hope still goes on today.

    And I actually liked Sket Dance a lot. I never considered there to be a single protagonist but rather a protagonist group and with a menagerie of colorful characters who could be protagonists in their own right, set in an everyday high school setting. Really good production values too. If you like Gintama’s comedy arcs, this series should work for you.

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SuperMario
Here's another experimental animated short for you, Kaiser, Tango (1981) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo8O8lYDzIU
SuperMario
@Animosh: yeah the second part was released in VOD earlier this year and I watched it. Prefer the 1st one much better
Vonter
I don't know why, but I thought you were talking about Tomorrowland. That Disney movie that bombed and everyone seemed very lukewarm about. I suppose because I don't know exactly what was the problem with it, didn't see much discussion about it.
Animosh
@SuperMario: I think I've seen World of Tomorrow, but not 100% sure. There's apparently a second part out though, and I definitely haven't seen that!
Animosh
And Umfeld (https://vimeo.com/umfeld) is also worth mentioning. It kind of consists of shorts, it's technically animated (at least in part: it mixes real footage and CGI I think?), and it's definitely weird. It's a very polarizing work though. I love it, but it wouldn't surprise me if most people here hate it.
Animosh
Some other things that came to mind: Tim Burton's "Vincent" (it's stop-motion, but whatever), Loom (https://vimeo.com/24069938) and E-Baby (https://vimeo.com/25435555). And the stop-motion shorts by Lee Hardcastle are pretty fun, if you're in the mood for some needlessly disgusting horror.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I enjoyed embrace of the serpent which has the same director as Birds of passage so I'll keep an eye out for it.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I'm going to see Roma and Birds of Passage this weekend. Really excited for both
Kaiser-Eoghan
As for the she-ra thing well, as I've gotten older I probably have avoided kids stuff more.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't want to see tokenism being seen as acceptance when it isn't, it feels that people are putting forth the idea that something is only being/can be accepted because its being portrayed in a tokenistic way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its fine, obviously to have strong female characters, Ripley in Alien, Sarah Conner in Terminator, awesome....Rey in star wars....no.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think too often shows and films, American ones today, are tokenistic or clicheed with inserting issues, merely just throwing them in or tacking them on for the sake of ticking boxes rather than any earnesty or doing anything.
Anonymous3086853
@SuperMario - I do. Yet at the same time it was a bit outside of my comfort zone, watching something like this considering that (let's be honest) msot shows are men oriented. Even the ones with great female characters. This one despite having tomboyish girls is mainly about these girls with male characters having supporting roles. I suppose that's were the uneasiness lies in my case.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Just got done watching both earlier, his dark humour jives well with me and I liked the concept.
SuperMario
@Kaiser @Animosh: if you haven't seen World of Tomorrow plsssss check it out. I can't recommend it highly enough
SuperMario
@Vonter: Maybe it's a good things that shows for general audiences like this have queer context. Don't you think?
Anonymous3086853
Also because I'm a bit immature, this show is kinda gay. There's a lot of ship baiting moments, one same sex couple in the last episode and rainbows, pastel colors, emasculated male characters and some female crossdressing.
Anonymous3086853
The weakest aspect is that several secondary characters get lost in the shuffle. Kinda like Big Hero 6 in which the team had personalities but just didn't had the time to develop in any meaningful way. Still both the main cast and villains were good and like I say the protagonist and antagonist had strong arcs for a first season.
Anonymous3086853
So I now finished watching She Ra, and it got even better as it was building towards the season's end. Thes strongest aspect is the rivalry between Adora and Catra, the chemistry is very strong, kinda like Optimus and Megatron or Xavier and Magneto. In which both parts seem equally capable and to have mind games with the other.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh hey cool, rain town is done by the Penguin hhighway anime movie guy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It looks like I haven't seen Don Hertzfedlts World of tomorrow films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also Prince Achmed and How Wang-Fo Was Saved.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah. yes, thanks animosh, I had a look at Rain town there, I like the style it was done in, it achieves the emotions its trying to convey well without needing dialogue, piano score actually helps rather than hinders.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Glassy ocean, that was another short I watched lately.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh inka isha is country doctor.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I know Mario has seen this style on animation, but anyone else see any oil on glass animation?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I actually prefer robot carnival to genius party but liked both.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Zepo, The Pride of Strathmoor were recent animated shorts I watched.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Recently I watched two shorts, death and the mother and pleasures of war.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd say any eastern european short films would be worth anyones time.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not familiar with rain town or Inaka Isha .
Amagi
Kaiser: Have you seen Inaka Isha from Kafka?
Animosh
In the meanwhile, though, I'd also be very interested in recommendations! The shorts I mentioned are among my favorite animated works, so if you know anything similar, please let me know. :)
Animosh
For western animation I really like the Don Hertzfeldt shorts. And there was this short called "Rain Town" that was really impressively animated. I'm sure there were others, but my long-term memory is pretty lousy. If something else comes to mind I'll let you know.
Animosh
I'm pretty sure you're already going to be familiar with all of my favorites, but here you go: Morimoto's shorts are all fantastic (Dimension Bomb, Beyond, Noiseman Sound Insect, etc), and two others that come to mind are Cat Soup and Kigeki (or Comedy) by Nakazawa. There are also some great collections out there (like the Genius Party ones), but again, you've probably seen those already.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If anyone has any suggestions for weird short animations, I'm looking for excuses to watch some more and I'm in the mood for them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: Mario's youtube link had cgi models of rem and ram in the video.
Masky
I'm confused when was Rem even mentioned
Kaiser-Eoghan
I only ever watched he-man and stuff related to it in passing when I was younger, Conan was more my thing back then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
For so long I'd always referred to she-ra as she-man.
AidanAK47
@Mario, What is this heresy!
....
....Rems always cute.
Anonymous3084910
Hilda is fine, though is very laidback kinda like a young reader's novel. It has its moments but its fantasy with slice-of-life coming of age.
Anonymous3084910
@SuperMario Yeah I know, She Ra is the twin sister of He Man. But strangely it seems Dreamworks may not have the right to those characters. It was a marketing idea trying to bring more girls to that universe but like most girls show from the time it had a very flat depiction of what little girls want to see.
SuperMario
Sorry Aidan, I know it's blasphemy but I have to post here. Enjoy the OP song with the twins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9MUjISNm0U&index=4&list=PLU56jBSlcHw8-ol9Hi4lJ0GR0tU6EOf2a
SuperMario
I'll probably check out Hilda. Heard a lot of hypes about that show
SuperMario
@Vonter: I've heard of She-Ra, she's the female counterpart (well, sister) of He-Man (the most powerful man in the universe and the secret identity of Prince Adam). Sounds silly but I'm not even kidding
Vonter
All in all, despite not being a big thing, I think is an enjoyable recommendation. My only nitpick is that it maybe too light hearted for some kinda like above My Little Pony but below something Voltron. Also despite being less childish than the original is still kinda of girly with lots of pastel colors although it balances it a bit having girls being more tomboyish in different degrees.
Vonter
Like with Voltron it amuses me seeing anime tropes being played through western lens. Since I'm a bit hesitant to say that could this count as a harem series despite not being male gaze moments? Also having the most sensible hotspring episode I've seen.
Vonter
In this one this She Ra has pathos. A bit like Korra there's doubt in her role and also a complicated relationship with her rival. I do like the role reversal in the knight's tale this clearly is, in that most roles that would be played by men are played by women in this story. Matriarchy, displacement of both femminine beauty but also empowerment.
Vonter
So I've watched some of the new She Ra from Netflix. So far I'm in, it's not deep but it's quite charismatic. I do like there's more pathos in regards to these characters which pretty much were confined to their archetype to an extreme like the original Power Rangers.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It manages to make watching something like running engaging, when I'd otherwise probably not watch the sport. Also, last week the show ended up popping into my head when I was sitting around doing pretty much nothing and made me think "Ok fuck it, not sitting around doing nothing, going to go out for a run around the block"
Lenlo
I also agree, characters losing in sports is important. They can't start at the top, it makes the series lose meaning
Lenlo
I quite enjoyed Kaze Fui this week. I think your correct that the one who got the reality check was Kurahara, who thought he was the only one able to actually make it. I also thing that he has a competitive streak a mile wide, and might be a little afraid of failure. Doesnt think the team can make it, so why bother
Kaiser-Eoghan
Think I wasn't i the mood for honda-san this week even though I laughed.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know I like it when sports series actually show the characters you know...actually lose.
Anonymous3083989
Huh, interesting in this episode of Kaze ga that it's Kakeru who got a reality check during the track meet since he was beaten by two other runners. I think we're due for an episode soon where he has to confront his past demons instead of fleeing from them.
Anonymous3083626
@Kaiser-Eoghan - Aging in fiction, I think has more to do with the story than the characters. I mean the jokes about Ash Ketchum, Detective Conan, Archie. The Flinstones tried to make different stories by aging Pebbles and Bam Bam. Or Batman having two Robins graduating into their own heroes. But in the end dynamics change, hence why most cartoons don't age the characters.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which is why when aging does occur in anime/manga, such as in vinland saga or nanoha for example, its appreciated.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And of course, animated characters often don't age much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can remember enjoying the simpsons movie back when I watched it, but thinking about it it really was just an extended episode. Really the show peaked with the who shot Mr Burns episode. Catching bits of recent episodes and seeing them use modern stuff while they never age seems weird too.
Amagi
I do think series are allowed to move forward though, I am kinda interested in the Pkmn movie for example. But certain shows should just end, Simpsons for example was a parody of the 90s, it just can't work in a more modern setting IMO.
Amagi
I stopped with the Simpsons when Maude was killed/died, it was just a step in the wrong direction they should have never done and it killed the series for me. I disliked it before already though, I think I noticed the series getting worse since season..9? Or 10, not sure anymore.
Amagi
Anime for Dorohedoro announced.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Therefore ruining the fanservice fun for everybody.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My favourite beach episodes are ones where it rains and they end up not being able to go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
After that it was just the film for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually, regarding the simpsons, the episode I stopped on was sometime in the early 2000s, Homer was stuck on some island resort or something.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I suppose it was just as much a case of falling out of watching/playing too and then there being so many episodes/games catchup was impossible. I probably should read the manga someday.
Anonymous3081957
@Kaiser-Eoghan -Kinda like Sponge Bob, Power Rangers or The Simpsons, I can't blame those who move forward, It's imposible for a show to go that long without losing steam. I did check the Sun and Moon first season and while I think the personality and energy is better it doesn't exactly push the concept forward. Still somehow Pokemon is still a phenomenon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: Very strange hearing a Pikachu talk with Ryan Reynolds voice. But my days of pokemon are behind me.
KyokoHyuga
?????
KyokoHyuga
who likes pokemon here
SuperMario
@Amagi: I think the person who made the sub for Maquia did a pretty neat job. Not perfect but the translation flows well
Vonter
We've seen realistic Pokémon fanart, but how does a movie looks when it attempts it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8CKgQFo5U8
Amagi
How are the subs for Maquia? I only heard anons complain about it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*dealing with
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though you should really torrent it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There is 1080p stream on kiss anime, if you hate deal with the ads on that site the 4up stream on anilinkz has the best quality of the available links
Lenlo
Where did you see Maquia online? I still need to watch it. PM it to me on discord maybe? Pretty please? <3
SuperMario
One fact that not many people know is that Penguin Highway is penned by Tomihiko Morimi. It indeed has many Morimi's signature inputs
SuperMario
This year, I'm doing well with catching up anime films (kudos for Australian's Madman who always license these titles very quickly). So far, I've watched Mirai, Maquia, Penguin Highway, Let Me Eat Your Pancreas and My Hero Academia the Movie
SuperMario
So I watched two anime movies this last week, Penguin Highway in theatre and Maquia online. Both of them are pretty solid in general, especially Penguin that has magical realism elements and some great chemistry. Whereas Mari Okada's writting still rubs me in the wrong way sometimes
Lenlo
D: He did, back in August actually apparently
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I heard Dino's voice actor died.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If we all took Goblin slayers attitude to trolls, then we would more easily ignore the trolls =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
Big twist in the golden kamuy manga.
Animosh
@SuperMario: remember that in the voice drama Rikka mentioned talking to Yuuta in their classroom during the ball game. Pretty sure it's about that.
SuperMario
@Animosh: i just watched the episode and noticed the lyrics as well. "The Promise" seems vague at the moment. Could be between Yuuta and whoever fits but I agree the "save someone from boredom" is about Akane
Animosh
You learn something every day. ;) Honestly though, I actually skipped the opening, so I hadn't even noticed that it had been translated until others pointed it out. And most of the time the lyrics are just cheesy one-liners, so I usually don't pay much attention to them either. But once in a while there's some nice hints hidden in there...
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know I never really ever paid attention to the lyrics in anime openings, I'd never thought to.
Animosh
The Gridman OP has been translated for the first time, and there's some pretty interesting reveals in there: it mentions a "promise" made in a classroom (so now we know how Yuuta and Rikka bonded in the past - glad it wasn't a simple confession), and talks of "rescuing" someone (presumably Akane) from boredom. So I guess she'll join the good guys eventually?
Lenlo
1200 words. I need to stop writing so much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I haven't seen last weeks episode of Irozuku or this weeks =< I'm waiting now for a bit to see if the series paysoff.
Animosh
Goddamn those magic segments in Irozuku were stunning! It's a shame its humdrum drama can't live up to its visual beauty, but I'll take it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think Ash's design is based a bit on River phoneix.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Sorry Eiji but your Ash is in another castle.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@CoolerAnon: I was about to say that. Kidnapping gets used alot in shojo.
Anonymous3072040
Yeah Ash is basically Princess Peach
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: I share your concerns, I don't know what studio is doing it. Some people want it to be mappa, some don't want it to be polygon pictures to adapt it. Its and long and violent manga, with some very funny at times dark humour, it could end up rushed and/or censored.
Anonymous3072021
As much as I love Dorohedoro I'm unsure if I should be happy or worried at it getting an adaptation, it isn't exactly the kind of story I imagine being easy to adapt well.
Lenlo
Yeah, I am touching on that in my writeup as we speak. The compressed story is causing Ash to be captured every other week.
Animosh
I agree Banana Fish was great this week though! My only gripe is that I'm getting sick and tired of seeing Ash get kidnapped again and again. He just escaped a couple of episodes ago! And he's just a lot more fun to watch when he's out there doing stuff.
Animosh
In a way the fights actually feel more realistic to me than those in Banana Fish. Sure, they're fantastical, bizarre even, but its battle system has a clear internal logic, and generally no power is infallible (each has its limitations). In Banana Fish the fights are rather poorly thought out by comparison. Their purpose is more to make Ash look cool than to give him realistic hurdles to overcome.
Animosh
@Kaiser: what sets Jojo apart from other battle shounen for me is how ridiculously creative its fights can get. Part 2 already shows some signs of this, but the introduction of the Stand system in Part 3 pushes it to another level, and in Part 4 the fights are consistently awesome. There are no simple beam struggles here: every fight is a battle of wits, between people with wildly different powers
Niel
Vinland Saga anime, and Now Dorohedoro just got announced. i'm really liking this trend.
Lenlo
Lots to writeup on Banana Fish this week.
Lenlo
Just finished it, I really like Blanca.
Lenlo
Because Jackie Chan and his stunt crew are some of the best in the world. There is a reason he has to insure his guys from his own pocket. No agency will take them
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have no idea how the hell Jackie Chan is still alive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Action works best for me when I really feel that theres danger involved. Thats why when some actors do their own stunts, you can fear for the actors life, and also the character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And thats why I'm a big fan of all that Chinese martial arts stuff from the 60s and 70s, that really expertly crafted chereography.
Lenlo
As for action, I like good choreography more than any super powers. Its why Cowboy Bebop, Seirei no Moribito, Sword of the Stranger and some Naruto fights are fantastic.
Lenlo
Im about to watch this weeks episode, so this chat makes me hopeful. I agree Ash and Eiji are the backbone of the series, and yeah me and Kaiser both agreed that the Gang war aspect was pretty weak, though I thought the finish with Arthur wasnt half bad
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I think Banana fish has a great grit to it for this reason.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm even more thankful to Banana fish too for that it keeps the action within the bounds of out of fantasy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've always been kind of a guns and swords and kungfu gut.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Black lagoons great example of anime action I can get behind.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I always found weapon combat and fist/kicking combat more raw and real,tangible than beamspam.
Anonymous3070972
But yeah if you're not a fan supernatural power fantasy action shounens, then maybe not your cup of tea, and that's totally cool
Anonymous3070972
Oh also if I'm recommending a fight from part 4, I'd say check out Highway Star
Anonymous3070972
Kira is a pretty cool villain though; he's always underpowered compared to the main heroes, but manages to somehow get out of the situation with luck or smarts; if nothing else, I'd recommend watching some Youtube clips
Anonymous3070972
*Turn off. lol.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its more than, even when I was younger supernatural power fantasy action shounen never appealed to me.
Anonymous3070972
Admittedly JoJo always has bad with exposition though, and always will be just due to the style, so that can definitely be a turn on for some people
Anonymous3070972
If you like slice of life with hijinks and a murder mystery combined with cool battles, you'll like part 4
Anonymous3070972
Yeah I can see why you might not like part 1 & 2, they were made in the 80s; I'd recommend part 4 and part 5 (ongoing rn) tbh, I feel like those are better for a modern viewing experience
Anonymous3070972
I used to think that BF's greatest strength was the plot; know I realize it's really about Ash & Eiji's connection first and foremost: as good as the plot can be, Ash & Eiji's relationship is absolutely the backbone.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Also that scene where Ash is thinking to himself, looking over Eiji.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nah, I pretty much gave up on jojo midway through part 2.
Anonymous3070771
Also, anybody notice Blanca's VA is Kira (from Diamond is Unbreakable)? What a wonderful duwang!
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: The producer guy Miyano is voicing, much like the show is irritating because the show has this "look at me look at me" feel to it, it just comes off as desperate to me and this is just going by the one episode I watched and hated.
Anonymous3070771
What's that damn piano song that plays when Ash and Eiji are talking about Japan. It's too good. For some reason, it's really magical
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: I was the one who said that.
@Niello: You don't need to see steins; gate zero, myself and lenlo discussed it to death as it was airing, its all over the place. I like the original too but after a while of the first half being fun, I just wanted it to start.
Anonymous3070771
Phew, great episode of BF; whoever said the gang war stuff was the weakest point was right. this stuff is getting fantastic again.
Niello
Also I agree, Zombieland first episode was amazing, second episode is still rather great, and then the other episodes have just been meh.
Niello
In Zombieland it doesn't help that the character he's voicing with that tone is an asshole, which isn't a good combination because it's making him more annoying by the episode.
Niello
Steins;Gate is pretty good, but I don't think I like it nearly as much as most people do (I gave it a 7/10). I also haven't bothered with Steins;Gate 0. And although I didn't mind Myano in Steins;Gate, I didn't particularly like his voice there either.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I love the sombreness of Blanca's character. Poor Ash, so broken in this episode.
AidanAK47
Yeah after episode 2 it's been a downgrade. Zombieland is still alright to watch but it really has become what it parodied.
Vonter
Zombieland sadly has winded down. I mean it was expected but still I was hoping some more creative attempts to use in the typical genre. It'll have been better if they had waken up more slowly in order to flesh the archetypes a bit more. It still has charismatic moments though.
Lenlo
Really Niello? See, I like it because it's the voice we never got in Steins;Gate 0. Its Okabe's Kyouma voice, and I have a nostalgic love for it
Masky
Wasn't gyary isekai another one that existed?
Niello
I hate Miyano voice in Zombieland Saga and find him annoying tbh.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am getting sick of self aware humour though. I see this show as something that was fun to make (such as Miyano seems to be feeling based on performances) but not fun for me to watch and that kind of extends to the manager who while I agree would be the best part of the show, I stopped finding funny after the joke was done.
Lenlo
For me, the main selling point of Zombieland Saga was always Miyano. I love this mans crazy voice.

And in regards to Isekai, discounting this most recent one, SAO actually is pretty good this season so far. Kirito is still bland, but its taking things a lot slower and actually building the world. Its taking its time with 52 episodes
Kaiser-Eoghan
By the sound of it, if some who liked the first episodes don't care for the ones beyond those two episode, then I'm glad I stopped watching.
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