Posted by AidanAK47 on 20 February 2018 with categories: Currently Watching:, Fate/Extra Last Encore

Well is it just going to be a thing from now on to have Nero take a bath in between floors? The large amount of Nero fanservice seems a bit of the excessive side and I feel like shaft is to blame for that. As a matter of fact now might be a good time to bring up cons with this series seeing as we have made it past the three episode guideline. So far I still remain somewhat invested in the story but I admit that we may be moving to a formula with how to approach the remaining masters. Seems that Hakuno and Nero will move to the floor, have an encounter with the master and his servent, meet some serventless master on the floor who clues them in with exposition before moving to take down the floor master. Then wash, rinse and repeat. Likely there is some changes to this coming but if this is to be the formula going forward this could get rather stale.

It wouldn’t be such a problem if the action was good but I find that Shinbo’s style doesn’t quite work well with the normally kinetic nature of Fate’s servant battles. It works when the characters are standing round having a chat so when it comes to exposition that this series is shoveling out heavily, Shinbo’s style works. But with it comes to action scenes, the quick cuts and odd determination to not show attacks actually hitting proves to be rather frustrating to watch. It might be rather unreasonable to expect Shaft to bring the level of fights Ufotable has trained fans to expect but even the likes of Prisma Illya and Apocrypha attempted to meet that expectation. For this however the style is clearly getting in the way of making the action work which is a same as the opening does show that Shaft can make some rather excellent fight choreography.

On that note I am disappointed to see that Drake wasn’t added to the opening and instead it remains being just Nero fighting off shadows. The song is growing on me but it does feel like a song that lacks an explosive chorus. Instead building throughout the song to just cut off suddenly. The endings are updated at least to show the master/servant duo of the week and the illustrations are quite excellent. For another previously mentioned con, the Nero fanservice is getting on the excessive side though I am surprised that they didn’t take the opportunity to show off Rin in the bath if that was the agenda. Look, Nero is such a narcissist that she thinks nothing about showing her naked body to people but having her walk out of the bath wearing nothing but a ribbon is just going far too far. In the first place, did I miss the bonding session where Nero became so comfortable with Hakuno in the first place?

Nero seems awfully attached for a servant that only knew her master for a day or two. Though yes this brings me on to my next con, Hakuno desperately needs some goddamn personality. All we got from him is that he has this vague hatred and a need to win the holy grail war. He still is the player character of the game and this is truly a missed opportunity to give him some characterization. At least we could have taken the route done with Persona 4’s protagonist which turned a normal mute player character into a deadpan snarker. Or even Gudako from Fate/Grand Order who has basically been characterised as a massive troll by supplementary content. (God I wish she was the protagonist of Grand Orders anime, could have gotten some amusement out of it then.)

Moving on to another con, we have Rin disappear and a new girl pop up called Rani. I am really quite surprised to see Nasu actually bring Rani into this as while she was a character in the Fate/Extra game, she wasn’t a fan favorite despite being a potential main heroine. Personality I always saw her being destined to join the backalley alliance in Carnival Phantasm featuring the unloved Sacchin, Sion and Riesbyfe.(Though maybe Sacchin wouldn’t be so unloved if she got her damn route in that Tsukihime remake that you should have been done writing about now Nasu!) Ultimately Rani’s purpose her is to shovel exposition which has gotten rather excessive with this series but we at least learn that this anime is set far into the future and that the digital humans within this virtual world may be the last remnants of mankind. Not sure what to make of that as I am still trying to piece together just what is going on too much to actually find the reveal all too shocking. I spent the majority to this post talking flaws but overall this episode was rather straightforward, new servant, new exposition dump and more questions.

A noteworthy aspect though is that this particular master and servant have done a completely 180 in how they were in the game. Before the old man was the one who wanted to fight fair and square which often worked against his servants style who is more accustomed to playing dirty. It’s a pity as i rather liked that dynamic in the games story but lets see just where this is going. As a last note it appears this series has two arcs, the first of which is this one named “Oblitus Copernican Theory” and a second arc named “Illustrious Ptolemaic Theory” which will be broadcast at a later unconfirmed date. It has not been clarified whether the second arc is a second cour of sorts though I am placing my bets on it being another 12 episodes. Some seem to believe that this is doing some sort of Danganronpa 3 Future/past arc broadcast with the future arc being broadcast first with the past arc answering questions. Though considering how unpredictable this series has been as of late, we really cannot guess as to what we are truly going to get.

8 Responses

  1. meow says:

    This is probably Rani’s first mass audience exposure so I expect she’ll get lots of spotlight, perhaps more so than Rin? And I’m not sure if this is the last we’ll see of either as things move forward. They were both major supporting characters in both Extra and CCC, although I really hated how they handled having to choose one or the other in Extra for each route. As for Drake, well, she and Shinji were the sacrificial stepping stones to move Hakuno up a level so we may not see them again til near the end, if at all, much like Fate Extra. I’m pretty sure Drake didn’t make a comeback in CCC either, which I thought was a shame. Pretty glad she got her own chapter in FGO and looking forward to her Extella Links debut. About your dissatisfaction about her lack of resistance last episode, I’m pretty sure she let them win because she hated being stuck on the first level like that. The whole theme of that episode seemed to be about the horror of stagnation and foregoing progress or evolution for fear of death. >.> Even that whiny Shinji didn’t do his usual “No! I don’t want to die!” freak out dance or take the out Drake offered him, preferring death to losing his safe zone.

    About Nero and baths, it’s just Nero’s thing. When they were promoting Fate Extra for the PSP, they had a fanservice minigame for Nero on the website where you had to get her bath hot enough for her to use (it might still be up for people to play) and a few special romance route/plot progression scenes for Nero in all Extra/Extella games were held in baths. I would just ignore it if it’s not your thing. Bath scenes were also a speciality for the monogatari series too so I’d be more surprised if they didn’t take advantage of this.

  2. Bokusen says:

    Well that settles it. I haven’t watched this episode due to being disappointed in the last one, though I figured I’d check out this review just in case, but if the series’ creators have so little confidence in the series they’re making that they feel the need to add lots of fanservice in order to make it sell, then their series isn’t worth my time.

    • meow says:

      To each their own. I completely dropped Inuyashiki after watching a kid brutally murder an innocent family in cold blood for his own amusement. With a strong feeling that this kid was going to be one of the main “protagonists”. And that was just the 2nd episode. I can’t understand what turns people on to such gratuitous brutality. The sheer effort they went to detail such a horrific scene. But I guess that’s the nature of art. Different people express themselves differently and the response of the audience may be equally varied. I have to strongly disagree that those bath scenes were “added” just to make it sell. It’s what they wanted to create and there are people who might consider it, like the successful monogatari series, a work of art, just like Inuyashiki. You’re probably making the right call for yourself. We all have our turn-offs and I doubt Fate Extra has a lot to offer to people who aren’t into the franchise.

      • Bokusen says:

        Which franchise? The video game Fate/Extra & it’s sequel? The greater Fate franchise? If it’s the former then you’re right. I haven’t played it and thus have no opinion on it. If it’s the latter, well I’ve watched every Fate anime series since Fate/Stay Night, and only dropped Prisma Illya out of all of them (due to excessive loli fanservice), though I lasted until the end of the first season of Prisma Illya and regretted it. I should have just dropped it after the one awesome fight scene. Sometimes I’m just too lenient with Fate series.
        I’m reading the Fate/Zero light novels and following the anime of Emiya-san chi no Kyou no Gohan currently, which despite not being a fan of the “docile perfect waifu” side of Saber which shows up in the latter, most of the other characters who have showed up, like Lancer, have been pretty hilarious so I can overlook Saber’s role and still enjoy it.

        If I’m not a fan of Fate then I don’t know who would count as one, to be honest.
        That said, my great affection for Fate series in general does not exempt me from finding fault with them. There are definitely times when Fate series add annoying and unnecessary fanservice in my eyes, such as Rin in UBW, or loli Jack the Ripper in Apocrypha. I understand that that straight gals like me are not the target audience for Fate, as it originally started as an eroge, and if you see Last Encore’s fanservice as art all the more power to you. Try as I might, I’m not able to see it as art, and feel a bit annoyed and degraded when I see female characters being objectified. A guy being handed a hardcore yaoi smut manga would likely feel somewhat uncomfortable reading it & wouldn’t be likely to view it as art. Same sort of thing. Even though I’m not a fan of yaoi, it was interesting to see the guys’ faces at anime club when they peered over and saw what some of my more yaoi loving friends were reading. None of them looked like they viewed yaoi as anything even remotely close to “art”.

        If the fanservice wasn’t added to make Last Encore sell, then the alternative is to believe that the writers were just a bunch of horny guys who wanted to draw fanservice. That’s fine, but it’s still not my kind of thing. Fate/Zero is still the greatest Fate anime series to me. FSN had Saber turn into a blushing, embarrassed waifu-type character at the end, in instead of the awesome serious warrior character she had been before then, UBW had lots of Rin fanservice, Apocrypha lost its way by the end, but I still liked each of these series enough despite their faults to keep watching until the end. Last Encore has nothing to really hook me. Making this series’ Saber character cute and fanservice-y instead of cool and serious made me lose interest fast. I like Rin, but even she wasn’t enough to save this series for me. If you enjoy the series that’s great, just don’t ask me to see fanservice as art. I’ve studied art and design, and I know that what people view as art or not is very dependent on their culture, experiences, and values. If you can view fanservice as art that’s fine. I am unable to view fanservice as art because of my experiences and I’m fine with that also. Last Encore just isn’t a Fate series I’m able to enjoy because of that, but if you do then that’s good, and I hope you have fun watching it.

        • meow says:

          You make some great points that hit the mark here and I think you’re making the right decision dropping Encore. It’s nothing like Fate Zero. For one thing, for me at least, the core of Fate Stay Night is that it’s a love story. Yes, battles, famous historical figures come back in a fantastic new form, world threatening crisis. But also, hope for a happily ever after. While this current series is all new content, I think it’s safe to assume it will come out somewhat like the monogatari series. And there were romantic visual novel style elements too. So you’re looking at a cyberpunk/psychological mystery battle tournament mixed in possibly with some random comedy hijinks and a bit of pg level fanservice. At the core though, a love story. Rushed, probably a tragic one but a love story nonetheless.

          There will likely be a potential romance or at least intimacy between Hakuno and Red Saber although for me, not to the depth we see in Fate Stay Night. Spoilers for Fate Extra, you can play a female Hakuno too and have an intimate relationship with Red Saber (female), Caster (female) and Nameless Archer (male), regardless of gender. There is some possible flirting with the major supporting characters Rin or Rani too. CCC ramps this up further, which I think is the major reason why it didn’t get an english adaptation. So if elements of that show up here, you can add Gilgamesh to your roster of potential partners, as well as a few iterations of Sakura. And a bunch of famous personages. Episode 2 had cameos of Leodinas, Darius the 3rd and Fergus mac Róich out of Fate Grand Order. I’m expecting more.

          FSN was an eroge originally because at it’s core, it was a romance novel, with routes for Saber, Rin and Sakura. I’d like to think it didn’t get trashy but that’s another to-each-their-own. So yes, the great warrior woman king is going to get mushy because she’s falling in love. The original Fate Prototype is more classic shojo, with a female Master falling in love with a classic Gary Stu Saber. Rin fanservice in UBW too because it wasn’t about who gets the Grail and wins the war or saves the world but about Shirou and Rin falling in love. The Holy Grail War? A minor magic ritual with little impact on the world. And the eroge part is because it had bedroom scenes. But the setting was just that awesome. The massive setting and awesome support characters like Lancer, Ilya, Kirei, Gilgamesh, etc steal the spotlight easily. Ilya was originally meant to have her own route with Shirou by the way. (Hm, I wonder why that didn’t work out? ) Fate Zero, a backstory to set up why everyone is the way they are. And yet, done so well as to create it’s own fanbase in a different genre, although buried in there too is a tragic love story that culminates midway. Awesome as it was, it was a bad ending for the protagonist there that paved the way for the protagonist in the next generation. Some of the popularity of Prisma Ilya is in that it’s a continuation of an alternate happy ending for Fate Zero. I’m not into loli fanservice either but I’m much less interested in seeing Ilya haunted by the twisted ghost of her beautiful mother, get tortuously operated on and bound to an overpowered Servant, leaving her with the fate of dying way too young in too many horrible ways. >.>; Is this a case of learning to appreciate the best by experiencing the worst?

          I really doubt you’ll lose much missing Encore but I personally love the characters and would love to see what they plan to twist this story into, given what I already know of Extra, CCC and Extella. You could wait for a full review later to get an idea about whether it’s worth your time but given what you said about your tastes, I don’t think you’ll miss much. As for another Fate Zero, the best I can suggest is to wait for the next Heaven’s Feel movie. I hope that doesn’t disappoint, although, again, at it’s core should be the romance between Shirou and Sakura. You already know how it went in the novels. How is Ufotable’s adaptation?

          • Bokusen says:

            Yeah, I think I may have very different reasons for watching Fate than some or maybe most people. I don’t care about the love story part and would be happier if they left it out. The whole “strong female character falls in love and becomes a docile doormat” trope is one of my most majorly disliked tropes and often enough to make me drop a series for life. If the games are all about romancing servants I’m glad I haven’t played them, as they don’t seem to be my sort of thing. If the series must have romance, I’d prefer something more like (although I know it wasn’t a romance) Mordred & Shishigou because they’re basically equals who seem to enjoy each other’s company, without one of them having to stoop to being a doormat. I’d really rather no romance though. It just feels so unnecessary and wrong, especially with servants, since they can be controlled with command spells against their will.
            For me, Fate is an epic battle story which brings to mind a Shakespearean tragedy. Almost everyone dies by the end, but you don’t know how, and watching the characters struggles and triumphs usually has me enraptured.

            Oh, and I should mention that I haven’t seen the monogatari series, aside from when someone at anime club randomly decided to put on “the toothbrush scene” and I got very weirded out. A lot of the others seemed to find it funny though, so perhaps that scene just wasn’t my cup of tea. I did watch the Zaregoto OVA, by the same author, and…well, the mystery was interesting, but the main female character acted like she was 5, which annoyed me enough that I can’t really say it was a “good” series in my view, despite the intriguing mystery. More of a “frustrating” watch. If Last Encore ends up like Zaregoto then it definitely won’t be my kind of show. I might keep up with reviews on it though.

            Yeah, that’s a good point about Prisma Ilya. Better to make a “good end” for her instead of the end she gets, although I could have done without the author inserting their loli fetish into the mix…

            I’m looking forward to the Heaven’s Feel movies, since at least Ufotable’s doing them, so I should have some awesome fight scenes to look at no matter what the story is like, and I’ve been curious about Black Saber since she appeared in Prisma Ilya. Apparently she shows up in Heaven’s Feel, right? Can’t wait.^-^

            Yeah, if you like Fate/Extra & are getting something out of the anime version I’m glad. I’m guessing that this series might be more for fans of the game anyway. I’m more of an anime-only Fate fan, though lately I’ve started branching out to the LN spinoffs. (Besides Fate/Zero, I also have the first volumes of Fate/Strange Fake, Apocrypha, and Lord El-Melloi II Case Files sitting on my Kindle)
            So far it looks like the anime of Fate/Zero was really faithful to the LN, though I’m still fairly early in, and I’ve heard the two diverge completely by the end.
            I tried to play FGO when it first came out in Japan, but Mash just seemed like such an annoying generic moe character to me. Then came the part where she became my character’s servant and I couldn’t put up with it any longer & rage-quit the game in frustration. Maybe it gets better later though.

            Have you played the original FSN VN? I’ve been thinking about watching a Let’s Play of the Fate route, to learn more about the lore of the Fate world. I’d probably quit before the Saber ending that annoyed me, but I can’t help but wonder if the first FSN anime left out a lot of details about the world, which I would have liked to hear as someone who loves detailed world-building.^-^

          • AidanAK47 AidanAK47 says:

            Fate route does have a number of building blocks for the Fate universe, like how magic works and such. But if you have problems with romance and someone becoming a doormat then Fate is the most problematic route. The first Fate anime had people believing Shirou was a sexist after all. While their is an internal monologue that does at least allow you to understand his mindset, there are some rather…questionable lines in there. Personally I see it as an artifact of it’s prototype phase where the genders were reverse for Shirou and Saber so this particular angle the story was going for was much more wholesome.

  3. Bokusen says:

    @Aidan
    Thanks! The reply link didn’t show up, so this will be out of order but oh well.

    Guess I’ll try watching the Fate route then, at least most of it, since I figure the romance part which isn’t my thing wouldn’t have much world-building content anyway. Shirou being sexist doesn’t bother me too much, as long as it’s just the patronizing kind of sexism he shows in the anime. I deal with that kind of thing every day. It’s the controlling or abusive kind of sexism that bothers me (AKA, why I ultimately stopped reading the rape-fetishy Berserk manga), but as long as it doesn’t go into that territory I don’t mind much.

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IMO making something more complicated than it should ends making something less enjoyable to play.
Vonter
Why not just watch a Let's Play. I suppose is an overreaction, but I felt very mixed how God of War 2018 was a good Father and Son story, but really annoying to play. Constant walking and climbing sequences, combat that I think it's less involved than the ones from the other games, and constant looting that lost it's charm by the 30th chest.
Vonter
I don't know why but I've been feeling that I'm enjoying more playing on the Switch than the PS4. While I enjoyed RE2 and will likely replay it, other high tech games like God of War, Horizon and the like don't do much for me. Most of this realistic games have very slow starts, make the playstation fans sound like it's struggling, and if the best part of these games is the dialogue and cinematics.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Genuinely a very good sign when a 20 minute episode feels much shorter than it is and its rewarding to see an anime series possess such a degree of confidence in its direction.
Lenlo
Just finished it. Seriously, Kaze Fui has nailed this segment of episodes. Just homerun after homerun. Its ridiculous. I love it. Kurahara tapping into the freakin speed force
Animosh
Now only Haiji is left. When there were five episodes remaining I was wondering whether there'd be enough content to fill them all, now I'm wondering how the show is going resolve everything in one episode. But the show has barely made any missteps so far, so I'm sure it'll nail the ending too.
Animosh
Kurahara's segment was also good. He's fallen in love with running, and now that he's pursuing running for its own sake he runs faster than ever. It also helps that he's crazy talented, of course.
Lenlo
I want to be excited for OPM 2... but JC Staff

Also I cant wait to watch Kaze Fui when I get off work. Sounds like it was good
Animosh
Yeah, King's segment was better than expected. Pretty relatable. His issues did come a bit out of nowhere though. His segment could have been even better if there had been some hints that he has been struggling with this earlier. It's also a bit strange that there wasn't any development with his job hunt, since that what basically his defining trait throughout the series.
Anonymous3563660
The developments from the first cour are absolutely paying off big time and it's amazing to see how far this cast has come since the first episode. And now it's time for Haiji's segment next episode. I can't take waiting another week for this!
Anonymous3563660
Well. Bravo Kaze ga. That was an amazing display that Kakeru showed. I loved his segment. King's backstory really hit me close to home as someone who recently graduated.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now on Boogiepop phantom episode 16....a discount Godzilla!
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: I liked Densetsu no yusha even though no one did and Record of Lodoss war, always wished there had been more of both.
Animosh
Yeah, that trailer ... does not look promising.
Anonymous3563292
Just as MP100 s2 takes its bow, there's going to be a lot of people expecting OPM to be as amazing as that or s1. Oh boy.
Anonymous3563292
A reminder to temper your expectations for OPM s2.
Anonymous3563001
After a messy start, that Prince of Smiles show has largely settled for okay. Not terrible, not amazing, but largely above-average and rather forgettable. I'd compare it to that Record of Grancrest War show from last year.
Anonymous3563001
This apparently isn't like that other Doga Kobo show where the pedo bait was persistent throughout.
Anonymous3563001
So uh, has anyone tried to go back to Wataten and see if the pedo bait has subsided since the first episode? Because it seems like it has for the time being.
Animosh
@Anon: no, I mean a continuation of the main story. I read about it on the anime subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/b26yj1/shaft_producer_mitsutoshi_kubota_confirming_that/
Lenlo
@Anon, I love Mob Psycho, but the series does have some iffy stills. Thats not an issue though, because this is an animated medium. Its meant to be viewed in motion and holy shit, does it look good in motion
AidanAK47
However my main issue at the moment is the feeling of them dragging things out for the sake of having that be the finale. Right now episodes just don't have much content and I feel it's too dragged out for it's own good.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Nervous isn't really the word I would use. As far as adaption is concerned I feel the series has done quite well for the most part with the only big misstep being the shows reluctance to have any inner monologue whatsoever which has lead to questionable choices to alternatively present information that was usually spoken in mind. I say the end of the arc will be done well.
Anonymous3560732
@Aidan As a manga reader, are you nervous about how they'll adapt the end of the arc in Neverland?
Anonymous3560839
mob psycho was amazeballs this week. It's the show that just keeps on giving. On a side note, I've seen some comments floating around about how the show has terrible still shots and I'm going to dispel that erroneous assessment in this week's discussion
SuperWooper
Search bar is in the upper right hand corner, in case you're still searching.
Anonymous3560732
@Animosh You referring to that Madoka mobile game tie-in?
Anonymous3560739
That’s not the search bar
Anonymous3560739
Mob psycho
Kaiser-Eoghan
They decided to adapt mushoku tensei apparently. I might aswell see what all the fuss about it is as being one of the "better" isekai.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can't imagine how the polar bear isekai or vending machine one would handle the harem aspect.
Animosh
As for Slime getting another season, I personally don't mind. It's obviously not a masterpiece, but I don't watch isekai for enlightenment. If they can offer me some relaxation after a day's work, that's enough for me.
Animosh
Some nice announcements in the past few days: Oregairu is getting a third (and final) season, and Madoka is rumored to get a sequel too (maybe focusing on Sayaka?).
Anonymous3560293
Cross Ange is not trash tho, way better than those others
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm wiser nowto certain types of story telling, making an overly long show that keeps throwing endless gotchas at you, eventually you get tired of the show trying to play with you instead of actually moving things forward.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: I've enjoyed many a trashy show/film in my time, but guilty crown, cross ange and Valvrave I couldn't finish, there are certain cases where the brain begins hurting/aching.
Anonymous3560221
While different in settings and genres, they obviously have Okouchi's writing full of shock value and swerves.
Anonymous3560221
Guilty Crown and Valvrave are like his most explicit attempts to recreate Geass, and look how those two fared. Kabaneri also falls into the same traps as those too.
Anonymous3560221
But even he ends up letting his worst tendencies slip in with examples like Princess Principal, particularly the last episode.
Anonymous3560221
Which ironic that the best shows that he's written are the ones that are not trying to recreate those Geass days like Lupin the 3rd Part V or that Devilman Netflix show.
Anonymous3560221
It's amusing to see that Okouchi's worst enemy is essentially himself. Trying to recreate that Code Geass magic with ass pulls, shocking swerves, and shock value without realizing that it's never as shocking the second time around. And that has basically ruined almost every work he's attached to.
Amagi
I always find it funny how almost everyone agrees that it was Biba who ruined Kabaneri. I liked that show so much before he appeared, damn. Will watch the movie but my hype is killed and I fear the movie will just be about another random human antagonist instead of the actual Kabaneri problem.
Anonymous3558784
mongatari
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo@Wooper: At least we have the Tanya movie to look forward to.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*Even though I know its going for something fun.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh COME on Japan, just give me by communist isekai mecha show so we can be lovers again.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Biba fucker ruined the show and it stopped allowing me to enjoy Kabeneri as a shitty ova throwback.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Couldn't even make good on a stupid re-incarnation premise on the ones you mentioned.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or better yet, find some old proto-isekai and adapt it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
"Could be worse" I suppose I win by default by bringing up Parallel paradise and ruining everyones fun by reminding them of its existence.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think my brother in laws reason for liking trashy isekai is because he sees them as an anime equivalent to exploitation films, I should just tell him to watch old ovas.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If we're doing the re-incarnation thing, just give me a full please save my earth adaptation or bokura no kiseki or that other re-incarnation thing done by Spirals artist.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Not an isekai, but a LN adaptation, Index keeps popping up again every so often, I fell out of the series a long time ago and got exhausted with it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel the same way about konosuba, I wish I found it funny but I don't because I know it is going for that "fun" thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think, especially with a second season, I'd eventually get fed up with it aswell and that it would get repetitive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My brother (and probably my brother in law too) seem to enjoy Reincarnated as a slime as a casuals show and find it funny. I saw clips of the dub, the voice actors sounded like they were having fun and I think some people found the slime/dragon interactions at the start amusing. I'm just left thinking that the show is something my younger self might have gone for but I'm indifferent to it now.
AidanAK47
Or the vending machine isekai
AidanAK47
Or the polar bear isekai
AidanAK47
It could be the hot spring isekai
AidanAK47
Well guys it could be worse.
Lenlo
I sense a disturbance in the medium. I fear for the future.
SuperWooper
That's fantastic news, as series set in the real world give me diarrhea. I assume that the majority of Japanese otaku suffer from the same issue, given the number of isekai manga and LNs that are slowly polluting my favorite art form. :^)
Anonymous3556601
As expected, that Slime isekai show has been renewed for a second season.
SuperWooper
@Anon3540676: Hey!
Anonymous3542644
And despite all of these recent announcements lately, IG still hasn't announced a release date and release model for DNT s2 yet beyond theatrical screenings. =(
Anonymous3542320
https://youtu.be/cxjXEIDbBxAInterestingly, seems like Banana Fish (technically not BL) did well enough for Noitamina to consider having an adaptation an actual BL manga on their block.
Anonymous3542320
I would really love to see that Kabaneri film get things back on track after the second half nearly derailed it (pun intended).
Anonymous3542320
Huh, well that didn't take too long for a release date regarding Psycho-Pass 3. It's slated for October.
Meanwhile, Beastars is going to be Netflix-exclusive, and interestingly, the Kabaneri film is going to air simultaneously on Netflix and Amazon alongside a limited theatrical release.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Did you ever read beast complex? I haven't done so yet, it seems like like the beastars authors prototype for it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Hadn't known that, thanks. Also, I read the most recent 20 or so chapters Amatsuki, all has finally been revealed.
Amagi
Q's (Dorohedoro) new series started, Dai Dark. It's basically Dorohedoro in space (therefore, I am completely fine with it).
Lenlo
This adaptation of Dororo is adding a lot of new content to its story in its adaptation. It's taking what was a much more one-dimensional story in my opinion, and giving it layers.

And yeah, Run with the Wind was great. Sure Kurahara has been the most emotional, he is the lead, but I think everyone in the cast has done a decent job
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although while I did enjoy last week, I didn't think it captured the impact the manga had.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Dororo upped the ante this week to its benefit. This episode also showed how the series can succeed even with the protagonist having a minimized screentime. I don't remember Taromaro going up against a demon in the manga, this is an advantage of this adaptation adding stuff.
Kaiser-Eoghan
...because there will be that sense of saying goodbye.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: And thinking it over, I've been beginning to get the feeling that this will be one of those took me on a journey shows, one of those shows where I felt I really spent alot of time with everyone in it and after it ends/in the last episode, it'll get me feeling something...
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: While so far in the series I thi7nk the stuff around Kakeru has been the most emotionally rewarding, the middle of this episode crept up on me , the tension of the race itself was never interrupted by the flashbacks and they were well stitched into the narrative.
Lenlo
Just watched it. I love this show so much. How is a show about running so damn good
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