Posted by Lenlo on 30 October 2018 with categories: Anime Reviews, Finished Series: Adventure/Fantasy/Science Fiction

According to much of the Western Anime community, this series wouldn’t be relevant for a site like this. Being made in the West by Americans, and English being its first language, many would disqualify it from the start. However I name them all fools for Castlevania, Directed by Sam Deats and Ryoichi Uchikoshi is clearly inspired by and modeled after Anime. Just like Avatar: The Last Airbender or the currently airing RWBY, let Castlevania stand as a testament that Anime can be produced beyond the borders of Japan. A damn good one at that.

Lets jump in, and beware of spoilers!

Animation/Art

So since I am calling Castlevania an Anime by any other name, let’s start with the animation. Pretty much any scene involving our lead trio or Dracula looked good. Just like the 1st Season, Castlevania looks phenomenal in motion when it wants to. For proof of this just watch the entirety of Episode 7 again, though I will get to specifics later. It manages to impart impact and weight to Trevor while giving weightlessness and grace to Alucard. The issue comes when the main 4 are either not present on screen, or not moving. A lot of the still shots suffer because of the sometimes simplified designs. The lack of detail in some parts, useful when animating so they can focus on larger movements, doesn’t always fit still shots with detailed backgrounds. This is overshadowed though by the simple fact that every other character doesn’t get the same attention.

What I mean by that is, Castlevania clearly had a B-Team of animators. While the best worked on Dracula, Trevor, Alucard and Sypha, the rest of the vampires got shafted. I can think of maybe a single scene with the new characters, Godbrand’s chase in the snowy forest, that stood out to me. The rest just felt lackluster compared any scene Trevor is in. It doesn’t help that I don’t care about these side characters at all, which I will get into more detail on later. I am still grateful it exists, and its not like the animation is bad. It just doesn’t match up in terms of quality, and its noticeable. It’s like they had the same budget or time constraints they had for the first season, but elected to go for 8 episodes instead of 4.

Direction

Speaking of spread out, lets talk about some of the direction, the choices made during this season. In my opinion, Castlevania Season 2 is by far to spread out. The story is fine and dandy, but how it was presented was just awful. The focus of the series is on our Trio and Dracula, yet what does Castlevania do? Stick our trio in a library for 4 episodes then have us watch Vampire politics with a bunch of new characters. It’s dull! We don’t know or care about these people, yet they are supposed to carry the series? Perhaps had Castlevania done something with them, an extended siege of Braila, it would have been good. But for every episode spent with our Trio in the library, the Vampires spent bickering about how much they hate the war. It’s a shame because it wasn’t all bad either.

As far as actual direction went, it a series of ups and downs. There were some beautiful shots under a red moon, or Isaac performing a funeral on the tower. The standout of the series is without a doubt Dracula and Alucard in his bedroom, realizing what he is doing. These are all great scenes and I remember them vividly because of it. But Isaac killing Godbrand, our Trio just laying about the Belmont library? These are not engaging scenes. They do not spur anything in the viewer, they simply exist. Most of them aren’t bad per se, they don’t detract. They just… are. And that’s Castlevania’s biggest problem in this category, most of the shots just exist, without anything extra presented in them. At least Dracula got a consistent level of quality.

Story/World

In terms of story, the actual concept Castlevania has is good. Expanding on Dracula’s war with humanity, our Trio searches for knowledge to kill him, etc etc. The problem is that it dragged out. In my opinion, episodes 3, 4, 5 & 6 could probably be condensed down into 2. This would up the pacing and still manage to tell pretty much the same story, without boring viewers with constant looks into a library for 4 episodes. If 8 episodes were a must, extending the Siege of Braila and actually showing us the savagery of the Vampires would also be useful. We keep hearing about this great army of the night, yet never see it, and Castlevania suffers for it. Basically, the entire political side story with the Vampires is wasted potential that drags down the central plot.

The only aspect of the Vampire politics story that I enjoyed was Carmilla’s betrayal and Hector and Isaac. Carmilla was fine, while Hector and Isaac were easily the best new characters of the season. Their friendship with Dracula even during a genocide of humanity was intriguing to watch. They humanized Dracula when he was moving to kill off the human species, they gave him friendly characters to bounce off of. Sadly, they and Carmilla seem to exist purely for the already announced 3rd Season. Carmilla as the Dracula stand in with an upcoming army, while Hector goes out to finish Dracula’s mission of killing off humanity. Of the 3, Hector’s story and fall was my favorite. His desire for mercy, love for Dracula and gentle heart make him the most relatable character in the court. Maybe that’s why his story, and tragic end, is the only one I cared about.

Characters 

Onto the characters, whom I have mentioned numerous times already I know. So for this I will split it up, into new characters and old. In terms of new characters, I already gushed about Isaac and Hector being the only ones I well and truly liked. The reason for this is simple. They are the only two, excluding maybe Carmilla, who get any sort of meaningful story. Everyone else, all the intricately designed Vampire Generals from other nations, might as well not exist. Take Godbrand, their virtual spokesperson, as picture proof of this. He remains unchanged through the whole series, and while he is amusing and well voiced, he really doesn’t serve any narrative purpose. Remove him and our Trio will still do the same things, Carmilla will still plot and Hector will still doubt. Godbrand exists for no real narrative purpose. And that is Castlevania’s problem IE characters.

You need only look at our original 4 to see how outclassed the new characters are. Alucard and Trevor’s banter for instance, or Sypha’s gradual infatuation. But the best scene in the entire season, with the most fantastic characterization, was without a doubt Episode 7, Dracula’s defeat. The entire season his depression, the emptiness of the world without his wife, was hammered home. So to end the series with Dracula being defeated not by brute strength, but his love for his son? His realization that he is destroying the only thing left of his wife, whom he has shown he loved so much? It was the single best moment of characterization in the entire show. And it didn’t just affect him, but Alucard as well, this stoic Vampire crying alone in his castle. This is what the Vampire Generals had to compete against. This is Castlevania’s strongest aspect.

Voice Acting

It no doubt helps that the Voice Acting was on point. Graham McTavish as Dracula, Richard Armitage as Belmont and Alejandra Reynoso as Sypha all knocked it out of the park. Each of them just nail their character, and once again I have to point towards Episode 7 as prime material for this. I have re-watched Dracula’s realization of what he was doing to Alucard multiple times, I love it so much. You can hear despair in his voice as he gives up, as he lets Alucard finish it. Sypha’s voice, an accent I can’t quite place, also really sold her scenes. I normally don’t enjoy dubs, because I find listening to English speakers attempt to pronounce Japanese very awkward, and the same in reverse. It’s just not pleasing to the ears. But for a story set in fantasy Europe, Castlevania found the sweet spot for voices.

Now, I know that this is supposed to be the section for Voice Acting, but I can’t help but mention the music as well. It’s all sound, so it counts! It’s hard to hear in some places, but Castlevania successfully brought in some of the video-game soundtracks. Specifically, Bloody Tears during the episode 7 intro fight. No one can deny, the original video-game Castlevania soundtrack is one of the greats. That’s why it is a shame it is so underutilized in this series. When it’s there, you love it and everything is right with the world. But you have to notice it in the first place to get that joy, and it is a damn shame.

Conclusion

So all in all, what do I think of Castlevania. Well, I think that it’s highs are incredible and its lows are dull drums. It wasted a lot of it’s potential and could have been a Masterpiece. As is? It’s one of the best Videogame adaptations out there. It’s a fun short 8 episode Vampire fueled adventure. I personally love Castlevania, and re-watch episodes of it constantly. But that’s the thing, I re-watch specific episodes instead of the whole thing. For such a short series, it fail’s at making me want to come back time and again for anything more than the highlights reel. A damn shame in my opinion. I don’t see how Netflix is going to make Season 3 any better, with the titular Dracula now dead. But at the very least, I heartily recommend you sit down and watch Castlevania. It will not waste your time.

I could nitpick it to the ends of the earth. How the power levels of various vampires make no sense, to the oddly modern choice of dialogue for multiple scenes. But at the end of the day, Castlevania has heart. The creators cared. If they didn’t we wouldn’t get Sypha speaking to Trevor in the library. We wouldn’t get Hector’s naivety and cruel fate. We wouldn’t get Episode 7 and its heartfelt finale. And you know what?

That’s what matters.

10 Responses

  1. Vonter says:

    I like to add, that while narrative dragged, I think there was a consistent theme in this season and that was about growth. Trevor being unfocused on what he’s doing with his life frustrating his companions in that he’s like a petty child. Alucard trying to do what he thinks he’s right but being selfless to a fault, until the end him realizing if what he did was the best for himself.

    Dracula is interesting because it’s a kind of mid-age crisis, thinking he lost everything and thinking he could never regain any joy, acknowledges his son in his last moments making him feel blind to what his wife probably would have wanted him to do.

    Hector and Isaac will likely be different characters next season, with Hector having a rude awakening that his world view is a bit childish and the ruthlessness of both people and vampires is something he’ll need to adapt. Isaac will probably be like a missionary wanting to accomplish the thing his master could not.

    Finally I don’t know if it’s politics or a writer’s thing, but is curious how Sypha and Carmilla acted like the more mature individuals constantly pushing the other characters around and either motivating them or manipulating them. Both seem in control of their own selves, even the little glimpses at Lisa. It’s a nice contrast in comparison to japanese series that frequently make their female characters very childish.

    • Lenlo says:

      Once again, I love your comments.

      I hadnt noticed it, but your right. The female characters are often the most adult, herding the male characters around. I like it, I think strong female characters are a plus. Its just not something I had noticed.

      As for Hector and Isaac, they will no doubt be the main villains or leads of the next already announced 3rd season. Its possible Hector will become like Alucard, a hero or sympathetic character, but we will have to see.

    • Tayo Jones says:

      Here is a list of anime where the girls are certainly not childish:

      Ghost in the shell

      Berserk

      Baccano

      Durarara

      Monogatari

      Perfect Blue

      Paprika

      Steins gate

      Also, i have no problems with strong female leads, but not to the point where they come off as overbearing and constantly cutting off the balls of the male leads.

  2. Firechick says:

    Yay, a review of the series that isn’t pretentious and solely “Ewww it’s all Netflix and dark and edgy grimdark and I hate it!” I haven’t seen it myself nor do I want to, as vampires really aren’t my thing, but I do like the idea of Netflix giving more opportunities to creators and animators to do their own thing without the constraints that TV has, and I want to be able to support that. Good thing I have a Netflix account!

    • Lenlo says:

      Haha, is that really what most of them are saying? I have nothing againts Netflix, though their release schedule could use some work. And I love that they are branching out with their originals.

      • Firechick says:

        Unfortunately, yes. They’re doing the same thing with Devilman Crybaby too (I haven’t seen that one, either). Personally, I don’t have a problem with dark shows, or even grimdark, as long as the execution is good and the characters are interesting to me. I love Madoka Magica because of its premise and interesting set up, but I hate Made In Abyss because I don’t like how it shows children being nude. I really like this one Netflix show called Anne With an E, even though it tries way too hard to be serious and dark and is not even remotely faithful to the book in some areas. But I’d MUCH rather watch that than, say, crappy “reality” TV shows or any ecchi/incest anime or…anything starring Tyler Perry or the Kardashians.

        Plus, even without that, I’ve heard people claim that Netflix keeps pushing agendas in every show they make (Usually by having homosexual characters), which I think is bullcrap because there’s a difference between giving characters an orientation, trying to give a message, and pushing an agenda. “Ewwww, I hate this show because it has two gay characters, so that means it’s pushing a gay agenda and think of the poor children!!” Yeah, I couldn’t make this up if I tried.

        • Lenlo says:

          Wow. I completely agree, grimdark isn’t for everyone. I personally prefer it, I have a dark taste in humor for instance.

          But I wouldn’t say Netflix is being edgy or anything. Like Devilman Crybaby, I thought was pretty good even if it ended in a crazy manner.

          I don’t think they are pushing any agenda’s either. That’s just how Devilman was written, and with Castlevania they had to come up with a full story from a 1990’s videogame with lines like “But alucard felt guilty because he killed his real father”. Im glad Netflix is making these, because like it or not, these are pretty high quality productions at times. I think its valuable to the medium.

    • SuperMario SuperMario says:

      My issues with Netflix original shows so far aren’t from its edgy grimdark, it’s more about their aesthetic feel pretty old-fashioned so far. “Retro” might be a better phrasing but for now I feel like all their shows could have been made a decade ago.

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Vonter
I suppose we've had this talk. But; do women have a different type of power fantasies? Or you could essentially do the same thing as any other Isekai but with the genders flipped?
Vonter
@niello - Most power fantasies eventually lead to harems (like Hyrule Warriors). I did like the interactions of the two main characters in Shield Hero. And with Slime is sorta like watching a Let's Play as the main character visually gets more powerful along with his village, but like with Dr. House it seems it's a one man's show.
niello
Shield Hero is actually quite similar to Slime as after a while the MC basically settle down and make his own village to cultivate fighting force. The downside is that at that point it started to turn into a harem.
niello
It'd be nice if the new Franken Fran series could get it an anime, but that chance is probably near 0%...
niello
He does look young though
niello
Didn't Furuya ruined his voice with his smoking habit? It's coarser and deeper now. Judging from his Seiya voice a few years ago.
Vonter
Or are the 50s the new late 30s or early 40s?
Vonter
Are japanese people vampires? https://ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Toru_Furuya
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: If you look at the voice list, that Japanese voice actor for Mario in that anime movie is the same voice actor for Amuro Ray from the original Gundam.
Vonter
Also considering Baby Bowser was raised by Kamek. I suppose those beings could be made by magic.
Vonter
@Kaiser-Eoghan - My head canon is that Bowser made them himself. Kinda Lord Zedd or Rita from Power Rangers.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I still subscribe to the headcanon that Peach is the mother of Bowsers children.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember growing up with the relatively poor American cartoons, none of them featured Wario.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have committed videogame genocide apparently.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Everytime I broke or hit a brick in the Mario games I was probably murdering a toad.
Vonter
The ending it's "interesting" considering the relationship Mario and Peach have isn't something as close, as Link and Zelda.
Vonter
@Kaiser-Eoghan - It's weird but at the same time it does use elements from the game. Like the music, and story bits from the manual from the original Super Mario Bros. (Where it mentioned Bowser uses magic to turn Toads into the bricks, clouds and other objects of the game).
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never did end up watching the Mario anime movie that came out in the 80s.
Vonter
Also someone is putting the effort of making a Bowsette adventure doujin. This is the type of stuff that could be it's own original thing since it strays far from what's Mario. Despite the occasional mild nudity it's quite fun so far, despite also how weird it is.
Vonter
@Kaiser-Eoghan - At the very least it'll be interesting to see where it goes. It happens also every time something comes back. Times change and so the way we make stories. Also the original run had a curtain call chapter, so this is more a new story.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which is often what happens with episodic stuff for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I essentially read Fraken Fran until I got my fill of it.
AidanAK47
@Vonter, I feel that Franken Fran pretty much ran it's course though. Not sure what a new series could bring.
Vonter
Latest news: Franken Fran will get a new manga series. After it was cut short, it seems this little horror manga will get another chance: https://imgur.com/a/ypjtI4c
Vonter
I also read a bit ahead on Shield Hero. And I like it is character driven, but the cast isn't as big as other Isekai, like in Overlord where there are too many characters to easily keep track of what's happening (ever since it started Overlord feels like the most attached to its light novel origins).
Vonter
The monster town growing and expanding into it's own country reminded me of Digimon World. A game which you allied with Digimon to expand your town, add shops and other services. I've heard Xenoblade X was also like that.
Vonter
I watched during the weekend, the Slime Isekai. It's fine, though it lacked more conflict, the MC feels like its too powerful. Maybe this would have been great as a videogame since the concept of how this Slime evolves reminds me of the SNES game: E.V.O. The Search of Eden. It was about your character evolving through the ages and the player choosing how it adapts to it's environment.
Animosh
Also nice to see some love for LOGH in your personal lists (especially Aidan's). I guess it's too much of a niche series (a political epic in space) to score highly in the overall list, but I loved it. It retained much of what made the OVA so great while providing a much-needed update to its visuals and arguably better pacing.
Animosh
I also hadn't heard of the Kase-san OVA. Not sure whether enough can really happen in a one-hour OVA to make it worthwhile (it gives the impression of being promotional material more than a full-fledged adaptation), but I've been looking for another good yuri series after Bloom into You, so it can't hurt to give it a try.
Animosh
Nice to see Kaze ga made it on the list, even with just one cour out. I've seen most of the stuff that's won positive awards, but I've always avoided Pop Team Epic because of how silly it seemed to me. But given all the positive reviews (here and elsewhere) maybe I should give it a chance after all.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yu-no can go fuck itself.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There's also Yuasa's new thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Maybe the thriller shows will be worthwhile but I'm not really as interested.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yeah spring looks packed for me, there's also that throwback ova to riding Bean and some creature horror ova.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I notice that Index gets an annoying amount of episodes/adaptations, one of those shows that keeps going away for a while then keeps coming back.
Kaiser-Eoghan
We might get dororohedero and Vinliand saga at years end. I would like for pluto to air this year.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Definately looking forward to the josei and shoujo stuff in Spring 2019, nothing of interest for me thats on the summer 2019 list yet.
Vonter
Like you wrote, seems like it's the start for new ways to stream anime. With Crunchyroll making simulcasts and Netflix putting some anime in the spotlight considering the audience it has (and it also helps it has better dubs, at least in spanish). Finally I felt last year the criticism of fanservice got more loud, also summed with how tumblr and facebook politics are putting restrain on sex conten
SuperWooper
@Anon, Netflix is getting Watanabe's new series, Carole & Tuesday, next season. It might not have the mass appeal of Crybaby (violence and sex) or Aggretsuko (cute animals), but it ought to do well for them if they slap "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF COWBOY BEBOP" all over the Internet.
Vonter
Last year I also didn't watched a lot of drama or slice of life, which is a shame since a lot of what's listed reads like it fits those genres.
Vonter
Kind of a lukewarm year 2018 was in terms of anime series. Although I admit I watched a lot of trash as well. Most of the good stuff I watched last year was on Netflix. In terms of bad I already an issue on the list because disappointing, bad and trash are different degrees of badness.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Sorry for being so long and overdramatic, I'd normally stay quiet but I had to get my feelings out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't want to say anymore about this show anymore, I know those who did watch it generally emotionally connected with it or thought it was some kind of epic, if anything I felt it was an epic ruined by being chopped down. I hated it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nothing seems settled on long enough and nothing registers.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As Hateable as Jomy is in the beginning, I would at least liked to have seen proper flow of plot structure allowing for some natural progression of character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As an idea and I think if explored with more episodes/more it could be something, this also includes Keith.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The timeskip and general pacing annihilate anything that could be anything approaching reaching close to working with this series, resulting in an un-compelling cast I feel nothing for that ruins and undersells any drama which is far too overdone when it occurs.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can't complete this, don't care if I've watched the first half.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I didn't like the couple of episodes of Terra e I watched a some years ago, unfortunately this second attempt, over halfway through the show only illustrates further just how much I utterly despise this show.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As I've said before, I do think re-watches are important, especially years later after watching a show you disliked, if only to see if you'll enjoy it on the second run, lately thats been mostly successful for me, however....
Anonymous3325300
Meanwhile, I do expect that this year will be much stronger in terms of quality. Of course, I had the same assumptions last year based on the winter shows, but I do feel like this could be a stronger year full of great shows, instead of a lot of merely "good" ones.
Anonymous3325300
I predict that Netflix this year probably won't have a Devilman/Aggretsuko-level hit in terms of new anime. Evangelion is probably all they need, even though it's an old series.
Lenlo
If anyone thought that wasn't getting on this list, they either didnt watch it or have really low standards
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Its so catharctic that you listed steins;gate 0 I remember how we essentially lived and watched it together.
Lenlo
I think thats what the most pleasant surprise category is supposed to be. Didnt wanna double up on to many cats
Kaiser-Eoghan
No biggest surprise category?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can understand including bunny-senpai as a runner up, I'd have trouble picking between it and sorayori.
Lenlo
Episode 7 is so damn good, I don't care that its American.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: How do you think I feel, I'm not far off 35.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Glad you actually made room for a movie category aswell.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Based Lenlo, cheating with American anime cartoon.
Lenlo
Im just happy I got Castlevania on this list at all
Kaiser-Eoghan
Dropped planet with, hinamatsuri and violent evergarden though, didn't see Hisone.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I probably would have replaced planet with with happy sugar life or banana fish though or yagate ga kimi.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In any case, I am glad my wife Kanna Hanazawa won an award on your list and that Devilman got featured more than once.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, I though you would be splitting the voice actor category into voice actor and voice actress, though I suppose that's probably cheating a bit.
SuperWooper
You're not alone - of the four of us, I was the only one who watched it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I must have missed ASAGAO TO KASE-SAN. Hadn't heard of it until now, I should have paid more attention.
Anonymous3324478
Oh and the music was pretty good too I guess. Another episode is airing in March.
Anonymous3324478
Masa also recovered from his car accident from a few episodes ago. It was totally unneeded in my opinion.
Anonymous3324478
The last episode of Tsurune was a decent ending to an otherwise formulaic sports show with some great animation on par for the course with KyoAni. Minato overcame his target panic and won it for the team. Twins got owned big time.
Animosh
There's a new episode out of the Gridman voice drama: https://barnnn.blogspot.com/2019/01/ssssgridman-voice-drama-episode-6n.html. It's a pretty good one too.
Animosh
My only worry is if the series will be able to get to its logical stopping point (the end of the Claw arc) in 12 episodes. But I suppose I should trust Bones over my vague memories of how much content there is left to cover.
Animosh
Yeah, I agree a split cour could be good. It would allow the series to maintain its high levels of animation, and given how stacked next season looks to be (anime aside, there's also American Gods and the Game of Thrones madness to keep up with), and with another ONE show airing, a break wouldn't be so bad.
SuperMario
Split cour of Mob Psycho would be awesome. I don't want to watch 2 ONE's adaptation in one season
Lenlo
Not for bloggin
Lenlo
While I love Mob, I am a bit happy its only 1 cour. I couldnt do 3 2 cour series
Animosh
Assuming we do get 12 episodes, a split cour would still make sense ... but I guess we'll just have to wait for the official confirmations
Animosh
As far as I can tell the only source is some guy in Twitter, so not sure how reliable it is
Vonter
@Kaiser-Eoghan - Devilman Lady is what comes to mind on how to do this type of show better. That one had also a special agency for supernatural incidents, has a simple but compelling main character, uses it's time to build atmosphere and mood and even the action while a bit stilted had better monster design and the violence it's graphic but entertaining like Robocop.
Vonter
@Kaiser-Eoghan - Ok I will check. I'm also curious where it goes in terms of tone. Because it's all over the place.
Vonter
Ok. Last time I tried the login in feature didn't respond. This time it worked.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Keep me posted of magical girl spec ops in case it does turn into the kind of guilty pleasure shlock it should.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Is this vonter? If you register an account you can keep the name.
Anonymous3321080
But I think what gets me the most its how it beats the dead horse of the 80s action hero arc. Van Damme, Arnold and Stallone had more or less these type of lines. Its kind of funny this anime pretends these aren't tropes we don't use anymore because of how corny they come off. It'll definitely work better as an abridged series since it can be very boring when it tries to add the school life moment
Anonymous3321080
Also Mahou Spec Ops... Is interestingly bad. It tries to be exploitative and shocking but feels very sloppy, kinda like that meme of *slow heavy metal music plays* It also wants to play it like a dark shoujo anime, but the cute monsters are just distracting.
Anonymous3321080
Reading your conversations about idols, despite being mediocre Gokudolls and Ore Mahou Shoujo made jabs at that culture. At least painting some aspects that may be true of how exploitative it is. I suppose because those are subpar, over the top and cheap is what they can do that. Can't remember one aside from Perfect Blue which criticizes that industry.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But only if there was more anime noirs.
Amagi
Reminds me of that stalin vs hitler comic. Think it was russian. They're attacking each other with magical super powers there. And yeah, I love noir now that you mention it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: That'd make for a great noir story.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Imagine Stalin and Hitler trolling each other on twitter.
Amagi
It's easy to construct superiority when you never have to show your private face and never participate in mundane chat talks or so.
Amagi
I bet a lot of people who had some aura of authority back then due to only ever appearing in books or for very rare (scripted) speeches would probably laughing stocks now if we'd see them commenting on daily stuff and news on twitter or reddit.
Amagi
I personally have given up upon having heroes. I still find a lot of historical people interesting but let's be real the few of them that weren't blatanly bad in some way were different then we imagine them to be (even if they're good). Just look how different people feel now that you see them tweeting on twitter VS policians etc decades ago.
Amagi
I like the idea of a main character longing for a dead friend and role model he had and still idolizes. Then at some point he starts reconstructing his friend's past to cherish his memories about him even more but finds out that the friends wasn't the hero he believed him to be and maybe even the own memories of him were idealized a lot over the years after his death without him even noticing.
Amagi
Yeah we are always searching for some sort of über-ich or perfect being that symbolizes the goal of some personality growth we're trying to achieve.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or the reason why some people need to have so many things or idols they probably don't need.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think there is a genetic/mental inadequacy in humanity that makes us susceptible to following "higher people who we forget are actually human" because of our own desire for an avatar or general inadequacy as human beings.
Amagi
Yeah this. It's probably also why they defend them so eagerly. Because it's actually true that "their" version of that person would never do that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: And that probably creates a much stronger blow to them when the actor is found guilty of a crime.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Very good response.
Amagi
It's kinda weird how almost everything we know about others is actually just interpretation to some degree.
Amagi
The weird thing is that I think that many fans of acrots/celebrities rather create their own versions of them they fall in love with rather than loving the actual person, whom they barely even know. It's fun because the concept of a waifu sounds extremely weird to normal people, but many normal people kinda do this too but with real persons (but imaginary personality).
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think thats where it starts getting obsessive or where it gets too close to the next level, such as what the anon mentioned.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also can't bring myself to get too attached to a celebrity or to a character. I do look at hentai doujins yes but, I've probably had thoughts about certain actors or what not, but I never actually want to sleep with them, again I think that's taking fantasy too far.
Amagi
I never know if these are serious celebrations or rather some fun memes they do to post, I always assumed the latter. Kinda.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think the fans celebrating the idol's birthday thing is taking it to far too, especially if its an anime character.
Amagi
Yeah I was never an idol fan either, and I don't just mean the idol genre in anime but anything similar to idol stuff in general, like being a fanboy/girl of some celebrity or something. Was never able to get into that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its all too superficial.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Don't like the ideas it gives teenage girls either .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Certain topics just set me off =<
Amagi
The third episode of Wake Up girls was pretty good in that regard. I think it was the third one.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But yes, thats a pretty bad story what happened to the woman you mentioned.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Might be a good idea to catch some documentaries on that topic .
Kaiser-Eoghan
But that was just a sentence from some guy on a podcast though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now though I didn't see it, I do recall someone saying some of that Wake up girls idol anime slightly brought up seedier parts of the industry if not much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The hallow shallowness of the idol industry I mean.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also dislike the shallowness of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I love how Perfect blue takes influences from those gialli/giallo style films from the 60s/70s to an extent, while also spitting on the industry.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But you know what sucks? A part of me, both in regards to those women (and probably some of the male idols) whether it be in reality or animation, I can't actually deny finding some of these men/women actually physically attractive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Music industry has its seediness just about everywhere and of course victim blaming going to appear everywhere, not just Japan.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*commodification-consumerist
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: I hate capitalism, I hate the idol communication-commercialist industry and the willing self-aware slaves and their masters who perpetuate it, the music is largely awful aswell. I don't watch most of the idol anime, I think the idea of 30 something men throwing cash it is awful.
Anonymous3319279
Wonder if there will be some modern equivalent of Perfect Blue? That was a scathing critique of the idol industry back in the late 90s. Although given how shows that are flat out glorifying the industry are the best-selling shows on BD every year, I doubt it.
Anonymous3319279
In short, she was assaulted by two men at her home who were then arrested. Then she was pressured by her managers into claiming that she was to blame for this, not the men and apologizing to an audience.
Anonymous3319279
Hearing about what happened to some idol named Mahohon seriously makes me wonder if idol culture in Japan seriously needs an overhaul and if media needs to stop glorifying the industry so much.
Anonymous3319260
Ok. No pressure, just asking.
AidanAK47
@Anon, we are working on it. It's nearing completion and should be posted soon.
Anonymous3318799
I don't know if I missed it. But have you put the overview of 2018? Of best show, best character, etc. Did 2018 had a good anime villain?
Masky
Anyhoo, surprisingly Lovecraft's books have some really faithful manga adaptions
Masky
A story set in world post "Cthulhu"(or whatever is setting equivalent) awakening and transcending humans into "savage" inhuman world that he is supposed to bring forth
Masky
Ya know, speaking of lovecraft here is what I really want to see:
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well I guess Die Farbe and whisperer in the darkness count and the cthulu one, the latter two were done by the Lovecraft society.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The closest we got with an actual adaptation was Dreams of the witchhouse , but they left out Nyarlathotep.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Those films were fun, but none of them dated well either.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have to seperate my knowledge of the books from Stuart Gordon and Brian yuznas films that borrow elements and titles from Lovecrafts works, once I accept their takes on him are just body horror a black comedies I can kind of accept it more.
Lenlo
I think Junji Ito's manga works have come the closest to Lovecrafts brand of horror, and we all saw how that adaptation went.
Lenlo
Yeah, Lovecraft is a hard one. Even his own books are hit or miss, because it is a very fine line for his brand of psychological horror. Would make for an interesting and unique anime if done well though
Kaiser-Eoghan
A lovecraft themed world would find some difficulty in getting the atmosphere right as he has proved difficult to adapt.
Lenlo
Ah. Yeah, a non-traditional setting like that would be good. I think Isekai, to really change it up, should start going for non-traditional settings. Sci-Fi, Lovecraft, etc. I think this was mentioned before yeah?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I believe the anon was saying it in relation to making a good setting for an isekai show.
Lenlo
Its why I standby Sakaki in this that, even if he was a dick about it, he is right to be angry at how it all placed out. Just not at Kurahara.

Also @Anon, I loved Bloodborne! No idea what the convo is about, but saw it mentioned
Lenlo
They should Kaiser, I agree. Just look at American college football right now. ITs coming out all over the place, and people wonder why teams dont speak out against it. Its because they are kids, they think "This is how its SUPPOSED to be. Only the best make it. Its not the coaches fault, he makes us win". etc etc.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There is a spinoff anthology for bloom into you's manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or other big issues relating to sports such as performance enhancing drugs.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Lenlo, a thought popped into my head there, more sports shows should focus on abuse.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think flipflappers is one of my favourites in years, but it was definately at its best when it wasn't really about wrapping up its story.
Amagi
Space Dandy and Kaiba had this to some degree too. Liked both series.
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