Posted on 24 July 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


I’m not really happy, since this episode only seemed to have two roles: to show how Ellis is changing, and to save a bit of budget. I’m afraid to say it, but this has got to be one of the worst episodes of El Cazador. While Ellis was nice and all, she was the only thing that was nice about this episode. and perhaps the random destroyed objects that LA is leaving behind (notice the cactus at the beginning of the episode?)

Both the animation and the writing were rather bad. While the series usually sparkles through its character-designs, this episode showed mostly recycled frames, or it just showed the characters from a very far distance. The case this time is about Ellis and Nadie going after a bounty to make money (even though they acknowledged that it would consume too much work in the previous episode), but it lacks the magic of the first half of the series. Especialy because we get almost no information about the guy that needs to be caught. To top things, Ellis and Nadie run yet again into Ricardo and Lilio with some god-like timing, and Nadie miraculously survives a shot from a gun that hit her directly without any possible explanation. I don’t know who wrote this rubbish, but Bee-Train: please fire him. Even the music couldn’t save this episode.

There’s one interesting unrelated thing that came to my mind while watching this episode. We don’t see anymore random bounty-hunters after Ellis, do we? Does this indeed have to do with Rozenberg’s influence? I can imagine him passing out information about Ellis to the bounty-hunters, as an attempt to force Ellis to develop her powers.

Please, Bee-Train. You can do better than this.

Posted on 17 July 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


The first half of the episode was nothing special. While I loved how it made sense, since Nadie can’t rely on Blue-Eyes for her money-problems anymore, which forced the two of them to take a job at a local Taco-restaurant (where else? :P), there was also not much going on, and everything was pretty straightforward. Even with the inclusion of Ricardo and Lilio.

But everything changed once LA showed up. I’m not sure why, but he remains my favourite character of the entire series, and every scene with him in it turns out awesome for me. This episode was no exception, when we see Ellis use brute force on him, and we indeed get confirmed that she possesses huge physical strength. It was really cool to see the supposedly weak Ellis smack the hell out of that bastard. ^^;

Overall, while the episode wasn’t as important as the previous one, El Cazador just remains fun to watch, with its awesome soundtrack and highly addictive characters, just what you’d expect from a Bee-Train production. And it’s obviously great to see that finally Ellis starts to act for herself a bit. :)

Posted on 10 July 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


Haha! It’s just as I hoped! Ellis and Nadie may have continued with their travels, the main storyline and characters now play a much bigger role than in the first half. This particular episode gives some major developments to all of its characters apart from Blue-eyes’s henchmen and the strange cult, and it even introduces a few new ones.

One major event is that for the first time, Rozenberg runs into trouble. If I recall correctly, then the guy he talked to in episode 13 now got arrested, so the deals they made are off. We also finally meet his superior (who probably won’t play a big role due to his plain character-design). It seems that Rozenberg is doing something that could become problematic; my lack of Japanese couldn’t pick up exactly what, unfortunately.

Ellis and Nadie, meanwhile, really were meant to get closer together in this episode. They spend their time at an onsen during this episode (which probably was one of the few onsen-episodes in anime where characters actually wore swimsuits), and at the end of it, they find out that they both knew that Ellis wasn’t a real human (something that has been quite bothering Nadie throughout the episode), resulting in quite an adorable scene (see screencap).

Ricardo and Lilio meanwhile also were quite interesting, as it’s the last episode where they’re assigned to trail Ellis and Nadie. The fact that Ricardo still didn’t reveal Lilio’s history must mean that they still have some kind of role to play, but at least we now know for sure that Lilio indeed isn’t his real daughter. I think the reason they were unassigned was because of the thing that happened with Rozenberg. At the end of the episode, we also see him in the building where he killed the professor, along with a mysterious woman.

Blue-eyes meanwhile also seemed to have changed her plans, when she tries to unassign Nadie from her duties, though that fails and Nadie refuses. Blue-eyes then dismisses that plan, and reckons that it’s fine if Nadie continues to protect Ellis as well. LA, meanwhile, gets even crazier with this episode. ^^

I really wonder… what could Rozenberg be plotting? Why was the governor who was arrested so important to his plans?

Posted on 3 July 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


Haha! El Cazador is really getting fired up now! The first half did a great job of building up, and now the plot really starts moving! This episode, we get treated with an episode fully dedicated to showing Ellis’s time with the professor, before she shot him down (in fact, the cliff-hanger ends with the bang that killed the guy). My enthusiasm for this show is really growing rapidly with each episode!

This episode was entirely meant to show what the professor meant for Ellis. They’re the only two people who get some airtime, along with a couple of shots of Rozenberg. Ellis got first transferred to the professor’s house so that he could study her. Eventually, they began to have feelings for each other (cue insert song! ^^;). Not terribly original, but I still loved it. It also seems that the professor got shot down on thanksgiving, when Ellis first confessed her love for him.

The question, though, remains: how did the guy die. We do see a suspicious pair of feet enter the grounds of the mansion right before the shot sounds, but the fact also remains that there was a shot in the middle of Ellis’s package, right on the place of her chest. Where did that one come from? If I had to guess, then Rozenberg killed off the guy because he didn’t do what he wanted him to do (hence the shattered glass), but that doesn’t explain why Ellis blames herself for the murder either.

If El Cazador can be able to keep up this pace for most of the rest of the second half, this series can very well become one of the highlights of the spring-season. It’s going to be the highlight of this week in any case. The big question now remains: will the next episodes focus more on the plot, or degrade back to the cryptic first half? Only time will tell!

Posted on 26 June 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


Yay for plot advancement! I knew that the creators were going to devote episode 13 entirely to the plot, and it doesn’t disappoint. This episode features tons of revelations, and finally we get some character-development of Ellis. After this episode, we should probably get a few more normal episodes, but if Noir taught us anything, it’s that the second half is probably going to be much more plot-centric than the first one. :)

Basically, Ellis and Nadie arrive at the place where Ellis was created. It’s all abandoned now, but it’s of course the perfect place to find out a few things. Ellis gets separated from Nadie, and then she runs into our good friend LA, who finally makes contact with her again. He then explains a few things about Ellis and the witches.

It seems that there once was a family of witches that could manipulate flames and wind (I was surprised about the wind, but it does make sense, as Ellis used wind in order to put out the fire in episode 11). They were, however, destroyed. Probably due to the witch hunts that episode eleven talked about. Because of that, artificial witches were made, and Ellis is one of them. To make things even better, LA is also one of them, explaining his obsession over her. LA doesn’t have any magical power, though his physical abilities exceed that of a human. There were originally five witches created, though Ellis and LA are the only ones left at this point. It’ll be interesting to see what happened to the others. The professor was assigned to take care of Ellis, while people were probably doing experiments on her. When LA tries to take Ellis along with him, she refuses, though and goes back to Nadie. It’s definitely clear that Ellis has grown after this, and this episode definitely brought her closer to Nadie.

Regarding the side-characters, things get even more complicated as another party appears: hunters with gas-masks. The woman we saw in the previous episode seems to work for Blue-Eyes, and has been ordered to trail Nadie and Ellis. Ricardo and Lilio keep protecting the two of them as well on orders of Rozenberg, who in this episode meets a new character with whom he makes a mysterious deal and Blue-Eyes is meanwhile in some sort of helicopter. The question, though, is where did the green-masked guys come from? Blue-Eyes seems to think they come from Rozenberg, but that doesn’t make any sense, since he hired Ricardo. They can’t be allies with the Blue guys, since they can only have total freedom at night, and this episode took place during the day.

Ah well, looking forward to the second half. The 26-episoded series of Bee-Train have had the tendency to be slow for their first half and then explode during their second half.

Posted on 19 June 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


Quite an interesting episode this was. The people who were expecting action-packed episodes from El Cazador will probably rejoice, as it’s basically one huge gunfight, though the plot also features some nice progression (in El Cazador-terms, of course).

Usually, Nadie and Ellis would run into a random bystander and they’d end up helping him or her somehow. This time, it’s the opposite when the guy ends up helping Nadie and Ellis escape. Remember the blue guys from the previous episode? Well, let’s just say that they aren’t as passive as Ricardo and LA, as they waste no time launching an all-out attack on the couple. Nadie then runs into an armoured car, and she gets the driver to help them escape. He’s a bit of a lazy guy this time. He likes weapons and computers, but he’s basically your average armed nerd.

With this episode, I also realized that Ellis is being guided by the rock she carries. It’s also interesting to see how she reacts to the people that are after her life, she doesn’t seem to worry at all. I also liked the use of phones in this episode, when Nadie kept looking for ways to contact Blue-Eyes (did she really forget to bring something as important as a mobile phone with her? ^^;).

Also, remember the mysterious woman that appeared alongside Blue-Eyes during the OP? Well, her identity is revealed: it’s Blue-Eyes herself, with her hair down and a different outfit. LA, meanwhile, “obtained” a new hat and managed to catch up to Nadie and Ellis again, while Ricardo gets left behind, due to Lilio getting sick, which forces him to take care of her. I wonder what Rozenberg will do when he finds out about the blue guys, because I do believe that he doesn’t like to see Ellis dead.

This episode also introduces two new characters. One is an ally of Blue-Eyes, she also seems to work for her. The second is even more mysterious, as we only see one shot of her, no more.

Near the end of the episode, something interesting also happens. The armoured car has stopped, and the blue guys are shooting at the vehicle from all possible sides. Then, suddenly they’re taken out, but we never see who did it. There are three possible explanations:
– Ellis used her powers in such a way that the blue guys were taken out all at once.
– The above-mentioned woman had something to do with it.
– LA went berserk again. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was hiding in the trunk of Nadie and Ellis’s new car, by the way.

Posted on 12 June 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


Okay, screw what I said in episode 9. This series rocks, and that episode was just an example of a bad episode, not a bad series. El Cazador is probably the most bashed series of the spring-season, due to the fact that most people stick with it, even though they don’t like it. Still, I’m appreciating this series more and more, the suspense and mystery are excellent, and I love how each episode develops the small storylines that all centre around Ellis bit by bit. I think the problem with most people is that they’re all comparing it to Noir. To be honest, Noir suffered from its repetitive format in my opinion. El Cazador is handling this quite a bit better, due to all the different storylines and characters.

Another great strength of El Cazador, in my opinion, is its impact. Most of the airtime is light-hearted, but there definitely are dark elements in the storyline and history. It’s always nice, waiting for these dark moments to appear, making their impact bigger than in just any other series which constantly tries to get darker and darker. The incredible music also really helps in this.

The current episode was really worth watching, even without the chance of seeing half of the cast with nekomimi-ears. ^^; The story this time resembles the third arc of Ghost Hunt. A woman pretending to have psychic powers makes it big, and then gets discovered. A few years later, she came to a village, and she successfully made the villagers believe that she was a psychic who preached for the god Chappi, who in fact turned out to be her dead cat.

It’s surprising how this anime doesn’t pay any attention to the topics that are usually addressed by other anime when they deal with an episode where a person forces others into a religion. In fact, Nadie and Ellis never really criticise the fact that she deceives, and in stead the episode mostly focuses on the woman herself, and the pain she had to go through. People started to see her as a witch when she was young. It’s also interesting that she does have one power: reading memories. We also see her begging Ellis to stay with her, as Ellis is a girl who does have real powers, it’d be natural for her to indeed cling to her.

We also see her do something quite interesting: make a phone call with a certain “White House”, where she plans to tell them all about Ellis. Okay, she gets executed before she can meet them, but still, why would she do such a thing? Anyway, this episode also introduces some new important characters: the ones who shot down this woman, and their superiors. I believe that they’re on the side of Blue-eyes, and the reason for them to appear probably is because Blue-Eyes sent them the information she got from Rozenberg’s desk.

This was actually quite a difficult episode to understand, especially since these guys like to use big words, and they never really showed their intentions, they just spoke of them, like what usually happens in El Cazador. This makes it really difficult to understand, I may have to rewatch this episode subbed.

Despite this, though, I loved the climax, which showed a bit more of when Ellis killed the professor. Apparently, he had a gift for her, and she shot right through it. It was also interesting when Ellis looked at the pictures of some witch-hunts.

Regarding the other characters, LA is back, and Ricardo and Lilio still keep following Ellis and Nadie, though their role is minimal in this episode. Rozenberg, meanwhile, gets back from his trip to the desert, while he spots Blue-Eyes with the intentions to go there, based on the things she found in his office.

Posted on 5 June 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


Awesome, it seems that my worries after the previous episode were completely unnecessary. This episode featured lots of plot progression, new information, character-development and a great case. And not to forget the awesome background tune that returned! I had just one problem with this episode: PLEASE MAKE THE TACO-SONG STOP!!! Seriously, I’m fearing that I can’t get it out of my head if it continues for much longer.

The case this time features a guy who works at a taco-shop, along with his wife/girlfriend (Margarita). The guy, however, spent a part of his life as a serial-killer. At that time, he became acquaintances with a guy named Markes, who was about to be sent to prison. Margarita was with him, back then. For some reason, when he got out a year later, he begged the guy to kill her. He couldn’t kill her, and fell in love with her instead. Or something like that. You wouldn’t suspect that El Cazador has such a difficult dialogue to understand.

Anyway, Ellis was awesome this time. She really takes lead of the episode at times, for example when she starts wearing the waitress-costume. A large part of the episode also focuses on her, learning to smile at the appropriate times (with some hilarious results). During the climax, when Markes comes to take his revenge she also makes sure that Margarita is out of danger, and knocks the guy out by smacking a bunch of maracas on his head.

That last part was actually quite interesting. You wouldn’t say it, but Ellis definitely knows how to fight. I mean, maracas can be hard and all, but to knock out a grown male with them, and breaking them in the process does require a lot of strength. Because of this, I really do wonder what the second half of this anime has in store for us. Seriously, this series keeps dropping hints that something special is going to happen in the future. Either that, or I’m turning paranoid.

I’m also glad to see that L.A. finally escapes from Rozenberg. We don’t see him for the rest of the episode, but the souvenirs he left suggest that his sanity took a turn for the worse. Something tells me that this was exactly what Rozenberg wanted, so that he’d awaken “Ellis’ true powers”.

I also loved Blue-Eyes. While she was a bit silly in the previous two episodes, it was a perfect build-up for what happened at the end of this episode. She finally got her hands on the document, explaining everything about project Leviathan. It seems to be a project that was started a long time ago. If it succeeds, it might even have consequences on te entire earth. What kind of consequences, we’ll never know, as she then reaches a page with “You look much better without your glasses” scribbled on it. Seriously, how did Rozenberg know, and why did he want her to actually read it? Heck, why did he want her to know that he knows that she read it?

Ricardo also once again proves how dangerous he can be. He seems to have a bad history with Markes, so he brutally kills the guy after the climax, when nobody’s looking. The strange thing is that he just let Lilio come with him. I’m not sure whether she saw him actually kill, but that is not something you should do near a little girl. We also see hints that Lilio isn’t his real daughter. Why did he decide to take care of her? Heck, what happened to her voice?

I’m glad to see that this episode restored my faith in this series. It also was great to hear the music back, seriously, it should have been played more frequently. But then again, the track has become so awesome because it has only been played so little.

Posted on 28 May 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


I think that this can be classified as the first real filler of the series. Nothing is done to change the situations of any of the characters in any way, unless Ricardo really did lose track of Nadie and Ellis. I think we can expect episodes like these for the next month as well, until episode twelve or thirteen comes with the first major climax.

But, in order to make up for this, the creators did present us with a funny episode, and probably the coolest hunter yet. Seriously, though, it’s a shame that he died this episode, as he was hilarious and cool at the same time, I especially loved how he took his own horrible sense of fashion seriously. ^^;

As for the case of the episode, this time the anime starts playing around with raison d’êtres. We’ve got ourselves a girl who lives in an abandoned town, and works at an abandoned mine. How she gets her food is beyond me, but the reason she’s stayed as the only one was because of her father. He was looking for a strange silver relic when he still lived, but he never managed to find it. The girl then saw it as her task to continue this, even though everybody else gave up hope. In true anime-fashion, this relic is found and buried again, under the rubble. She then discards her father’s wishes, and chooses to live her own life: continue working on the mine.

It’s unfortunate, while I watched the episode, I never noticed anything, but as I’ve been writing this entry, I began to notice some considerable flaws in this episode. The scene with Blue-eyes illustrates this best, I think. While it was funny, it also shows how the plot is going nowhere. At least Wellber no Monogatari keeps track of where the main party is, but with El Cazador, the creators just can keep extending this journey as much as they like without it feeling strange.

The hunter, in fact, was the only really good point in this episode, now that I look back. The case itself was mundane, when compared to the others. Nadie was okay, I guess, not good, not bad. My main problem is Ellis, though. Her antics can only remain cute for a limited period of time, unless she changes somehow, which has yet to happen. This episode again, just showed her usual antics and nothing more, and for the first time, these antics began to drag.

The thing is that I’ve got nothing wrong with episodic series. Heck, I love them, but they’ve got one disadvantage: the episodes can either be incredibly good, or incredibly bad, depending on the case they choose. This clearly was a bad one, boring is the better word. Normally, I wouldn’t mind this so much, but the beginning episodes of this series have spoiled me so much when they had so many revelations in each episode, that it’s becoming disappointing to see a filler.

Let’s hope the case for the next episode is going to be a bit better.

Posted on 22 May 2007 with categories: El Cazador de la Bruja


With this episode, I knew: El Cazador is at its best when its themes centre around death. The past few episodes with background on Nadie and the fight between LA and Ricardo may have been nice, I now finally realize that the best stories are the ones in which death takes a central theme, finally, after four episodes of absence, we have another episode like this (the death used in episode 6 was more of a plot device than a focus, in fact).

Also, is it me, or are the creators really trying to save their best songs for the later half of the anime? For the past few episodes, I nearly forgot that this series has the brilliant Yuki Kajiura behind its music. So far, after the first three episodes, all we’ve heard were her standard tunes, but the fact remains that there are some great musical pieces among the soundtrack of El Cazador (for example, the track that was played during the climax of the first episode). The track that we heard when Nadie lied in the hospital in the middle of this episode also was a pure delight! I want more!

El Cazador’s episodes have always had one character who gets most of the screen-time and development. Episode 6 had Nadie, episode 7 had Lilio, while the current episode has Ellis as its main focus when Nadie gets shot down and put in the hospital. It’s nothing serious, as she’s able to walk again just a few hours later, but it does enable Ellis’s character to develop, as a mafia-boss sees her remove the bullet from Nadie’s wound and therefore thinks that she can heal his bed-ridden superior, whose health is in bad shape.

The guy is nothing like the stereotypical maffia-boss that you’d expect to see. He’s actually pretty worried about his superior. Ellis, however, can’t heal the guy. All she can do is melt metal, which doesn’t really help with a weak old guy. A large focus of this episode was for Ellis to understand the difference between good lying and evil lying. It’s interesting how nobody told her to do so, she actually figured it out herself, which is quite interesting if you consider her personality, and the fact that she claimed that she doesn’t like even the slightest lie because the professor told her that lying is bad. When the old man was about to die, though, mistaking Ellis for his dead daughter, she indeed tells him that she’s Paulina (the daughter’s name).

The side-characters also were once again very interesting. Heck, each of them has some kind of very small but important role in this episode. LA is now indeed captured, and instead of trying to escape, he keeps freaking out over Ellis’s pictures. Rozenberg meanwhile made a little trip to the desert in order to question the guy personally. And I still wonder: HOW THE HECK did he get the footage in LA’s camera!?

Blue-eyes meanwhile uses this opportunity to spy on Rozenberg’s office, by dropping herself down from an air-shaft above his desk. At least, that was the plan; she first needs to lose a few pounds before she’ll be able to do it. xD Ricardo meanwhile sends Lilio to give Ellis’s whereabouts to Nadie… why? I mean, there was not really a need for her to go there, was there? Or was he worried about Ellis, being taken away by a strange man?

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Kaiser Eoghan
I'll try neverland. Although it being in shounen jump is suspect.
Kaiser Eoghan
I was quite effected by flippflappers episode 10s last couple of moments.
SuperMario
yeah, she's checking her pulse while completely in control of the situation. Such badass. I wonder with the stakes so impossibly high how could they resolve all this? Not to mention they have other shits to face after escaping that orphanage. Good read. I love the three mains so far as well.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Yep. I actually didn't get into it until the end of the first chapter and then it's just got my full attention. Up to date and so far it hasn't let me down. Miss Mom is pretty damn unnerving. That one point near the beginning where she just holds the main girls head and stares at her like shes examining an object would scare the hell out of me if I was her.
SuperMario
This The Promised Neverland manga is awesome. I'm at chap 4 right now and it just getting better and better
Topgavin
Currently looking forward to Flip Flappers, Keijo and To Be Hero. Needa catch up on Girlish Number and Drifters but haven't had the time.
SuperMario
Oh, and that Zaragoto OVA which I think not a lot of people care to watch, at least not right now.
SuperMario
Now I consider catching up a part of this job haha
SuperMario
I'm more of a slice of life guy so my watch for this season are: natsume, Yuri on ice, girlish number, drifters, Fune wo amu, Saiki and I'm behind on Keijo, Magical Girl raising project, occultic;nine, buranki, Bungo stray dogs. Have a lot to catch up it seems
Lenlo
This season im watching Yuri, Drifters, and Flip Flappers. When I get the time I also try to watch some Bakumon
AidanAK47
Besides what I am blogging, I am also watching Jojo, Flip Flappers, Girlish number and Keijo.
AidanAK47
I guess you want to know what everyone's watching in the current season?
Anonymous533091
This is a mess
Anonymous532773
So the what out there y'all
Anonymous532773
And so number one out there
Anonymous532773
And some new anime
Anonymous532773
So what's new anime y'all seen
Anonymous532773
That's what. I think
AidanAK47
@Anon530022, I am not going to deny being arrogant. That's just my nature. But you are going to have to explain how wanting a show to have a genuine gay romance is homophobic? Kinda missing the logical steps on that jump. Anyway you being gay is irrelevant as I have a bisexual friend who says the romance isn't realistic in the slightest.
Anonymous530636
real interaction which makes everything feel fake. (sorry about the test walls)
Anonymous530636
I love basically any sports/romance anime so Yuri should be straight up my alley, but instead it just fails at both, mainly the sports part since it does try to focus on fanservice of the relationship between Victor and Yuri. I don't feel like the relationship between the two of them is real whether it's romantic or not. They keep having characters voice their thoughts about each other but no
Anonymous530636
Hi random long-time psgels reader, personally I think Yuri on Ice has kind of lost on trying to be a real romance and a real sports anime. It's characters are pretty weak and combing from someone that actually reads BL manga, I agree that their overt level of fanservice like focusing on the two of their lips and the rings, etc doesn't match their level of outright talking about shit.
Anonymous530138
I like a good dickin
Lenlo
tl;dr, chill its an anime.
Lenlo
Age gap isnt that big, and its not homophobic or arrogant to say a show isnt selling an aspect of itself well in his opinion. Lastly, romance for every person is different, so dont expect him to share your experiences/views on it.
Anonymous529997
Also, how Viktor's choice to become Yuuri's coach might have been initiated by not just Yuuri's skating, but Yuuri himself.
Anonymous529997
@Mario: I agree on the strip dance. Like, holy crap. But overall, I really like how episode 10 reframed the series from Viktor's perspective. Like, at first the whole commemorative photo thing made him seem like a jerk, but now we get to see that he had actually had a great time with Yuuri and was probably being genuine about it...
Anonymous530076
What happened to angry german kid
Anonymous530022
You just want them to identify themselves. You feel as if it's your right to know that they are gay. Well it isn't. It is their life, their story. You are being homophobic. You are being close minded. You are being arrogant. You are, indeed, very arrogant.
Anonymous530022
It is a mixture of admiration and lust and because it is hard to distinguish between the two it is difficult to express your feelings directly or even admit it to yourself.
Anonymous530022
As a gay man I attest that this is how romance works, ESPECIALLY when there is an age and experience gap.
Anonymous530022
This shows romance is actually reaistic, but you are still rejecting it. Yuri literally said he had found love. He said neither way who it's directed towards yet you are SO INSISTENT that it is towards skating. in the episode Victor even expressed admiration to Yuri's own dispositions beyond skating. He clearly was 'watching' him.
AidanAK47
If they planned to take such a hands off approach to romance then it would be better if they just focused on the skating. But well then the fujoshi's wouldn't be buying the Blu-rays now would they?
Lenlo
I can understand that, thats a problem I have with alot of modern romance's. Im just not seeing the backing off that happens in those romances. They just seem to raise it more and more in Yuri, without ever crossing the line, rather than toeing it then backing off.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, To me I find it aggravating. They go so far to portray them as gay yet when it comes to the final say they keep backing off. Hey I want to be more that friends...just kidding! Hey I love you...just kidding! Hey lets get married...just kidding! It like how harems constantly tease the main getting together with each girl when by shows end you know he's not going to get with anyone.
SuperMario
@lenl: agree. I'm still enjoying the hell of the show. A bit out of the blues thou when it comes to the strip dance (they shoulve planted that before), but it's a joy to watch every week
Lenlo
Eh. As I said, I think its above bait below romance. Either way im enjoying it and thats the important part.
SuperMario
For me they're just too much at the moments but unless they confirm it, nothing changes.
Kaiser Eoghan
Y'know I kind of wish Rorico would just come out and directly say he feels too old for most anime, its not really surprising a man in his 60s would be so cranky when it comes to this stuff.
SuperMario
@lenlo: I think it's more about statements. Yes, we understand the context of rings and engagements but unless they confirm it, nothing set in stones. And "hinting" is what they love to do, you can see just by the 2 shows I've coverage myself: Sound Eupho (Reina & Kumiko), Flip Flappers (Papika & Cocona) and people saying those same underlining context things.
Lenlo
I think its beyond baiting, below full blown romance at this point myself.
Lenlo
Does a show have to confirm and say "They kissed" to make it true? Seems along the same lines as "Fade to black" for sex. Then theres the ED which also made the start of the show much more interesting, as with this ED not its Victor that was jilted at the airport, when Yuri ran away.
Lenlo
See, I dont understand why they have to come out and say "We are gay" for you to accept its an actual romance. I dont see how this is baiting anymore either, as the rings and the "Engagement" seem pretty clear to me. Also, without knowing the current climate on the matter in Japan, this could be the clearest they are allowed to make it, while still fully intending for it to be a real romance.
AidanAK47
@Anon1, Agreed. I said before that I would like to be proven wrong on this but this series doesn't seem to have done that yet. I really will admit I am wrong to Anon2 if it does provide proof but it would need to be far more substantial than this.
@Anon2, Girl, boy, whatever.
Anonymous529668
I'm not a girl.
Anonymous529660
Even that is just grasping at straws though, haha.
Anonymous529660
@Aidan: I think the only thing from that scene that hints at actual romance would be where Viktor says something along the lines of a lot of other people got their L words from Yuuri, which he had earlier stated are "Love" and "Life." Honestly, even this is pushing it though, but the fact that he said it like that suggests that both he and Yuri got "those words" from Yuuri.
AidanAK47
Way I saw that scene was the guy saying "Fuck you, you think Yuri is so great. Well I am gonna be better than Yuri. Just you wait and see" and then Victor remarking on how Yuri awoke his competitive spirit. Aka his love for Skating.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Although I like both, I always prefer impressionism better. Expressionism for me tend to be a bit overwhelming and a bit subjectively. But mind you Flip Flappers still has moments of Expressionist as well (Episode 6: Irochan's parents)
AidanAK47
@Anon, I got the context you saw fine. About him getting mad over the "Good luck charm". You are being baited girl, hook, line and sinker.
Anonymous529618
You are missing context. You don't know anything. You don't even know why Yuri was mad do you? Why the fuck would he be mad about loving skating.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I bring up the impressionism vs expressionism thing because I feel that the impressionistic aspects of say a Tarkovsky film, Malick film and flippflappers feel superior to me over expressionistic style because its more emotionally satisfying while ALSO being athmospheric, Whereas expressinistic visuals are ONLY atmospheric.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Flippflappers has now reached a level where I feel the impressionism has gone beyond simply visual immersive in a way that makes us part of its world and has become more emotional.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: You mention impressionism in your review of flipflappers, in general do you feel on a visual level you respond more strongly to expressionism or impressionism?
SuperMario
I watched the whole thing so I know that in this episode, except the time they're giving rings to each other (in the name of "good luck charm") and Victor somewhat pump Yuri up for the Gold medal by Not Denying it; they still haven't admitted anything.
AidanAK47
Perhaps I am not the one who is in denial.
AidanAK47
Oh I think I see it now. Yeah this is nothing mate. The conversation was about skating from begining to end and Victor mentioned that he wasn't the only one to get his "L words" from Yuri. Pretty clear he means how Yuri helped Yurio awaken a love for Skating. Romantic love doesn't really make sense within the context. But yeah, they admitted nothing.
AidanAK47
Quite frankly if they don't have the balls to admit they are gay by this point they are just not going to.
AidanAK47
Time stamp means the point in the episode he actually said it. Like 18 minutes 20 seconds in or something. You should be able to get one. But maybe you can't find it either. Only thing I found Was about yuri teaching victor through his life and love but that's ambiguous enough to refer to his love for skating.
Anonymous529435
Don't have time stamp
Anonymous529435
Episode is narrated by Victor
Anonymous529435
At the end Victor admits he's in love and mentions the other person is also
AidanAK47
@Anon, Can you give me the timestamp on the episode? Scanning through it I don't see anything that suggests that.
Anonymous529150
Not joked
Anonymous529150
They admitted
Anonymous529150
No those were both me it's just the chat doesn't show it immediately so I posted again
AidanAK47
@Masky, He's denied it before but it's pretty obvious he's trying to make it seem like someone's agreeing with him.
AidanAK47
@Anon, admitted or joked?
Masky
So wait, is that same anon repeating himself or two different anons where second one copy pasted part of first one's post
Anonymous528870
They literally admitted a love triangle between the three main characters. You're in denial.
Anonymous528815
Are you kidding? This episode they outright admitted a love triangle between the three main characters. You're in denial.
AidanAK47
I actually was going to admit that I was wrong when I heard about the "Kiss" and gladly do so. But when I watched the scene in question it's clear what I said is still correct. They will dance around it, sure. But never outright confirm it.
AidanAK47
@Anon, discussed this before when the "Kiss" happened. Despite the series hinting it, and hinting it hard, it still hasn't outright confirmed it. While I am sure it is head canon to the watchers, the series itself is just queer baiting.
SuperMario
Okay... Just watched this week's Yuri on Ice. Haha things got weird again... and they so nailed Barcelona here, I recognized most of the places.
SuperMario
@anon527634: actually about that, I am a bit let down that after that "supposed kiss" in episode 7, no one in the series mentioned it again. Just like that "kiss" never happened.
Anonymous527534
So when is Aidan going to publicly admit he was wrong about the Yuri romance?
Lenlo
I loved the special ED so much.
Lenlo
Alright... Yuri this week was interesting in so many ways.
SuperMario
I'm also planning to catch BBK/BRK before the year end soon. I'm also find that series entertaining despite its obvious flaws
Kaiser Eoghan
But come to think of it, I do know what its like to enjoy something admittedly flawed, the first season of utawerumono was like that for me, I have nothing but criticism of it in all aspects but yet ended up being one of those things I somehow enjoyed watching.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, only flippflappers, natsume, drifters on my end.
AidanAK47
I wonder if anyone here is still watching Bubuki Buranki? It's weird but despite how deeply flawed it is I find it fairly enjoyable. Though that fantastic soundtrack certainly helps.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Oh they announced a Sonic movie too. Apparently it's a mix of live action and animation.
Anonymous525559
I am suprised SEGA didn't announce an Sonic movie and went with games like Altered Beast and Crazy Taxi, they probably could have just ripped off one story from the Archie Sonic comics and make an movie based on that, preferably the story where Sonic travels in the multiverse to fight an super powerful Sigma alongside Classic Megaman and Megaman X,Steet Fighter cast,Breath of Fire 3 cast and more
AidanAK47
@Anon, A parody Grindhouse film actually could work. I consider Overkill the best of House of the dead. Thing is there actually is already a house of the dead movie so this would be their second attempt. The first attempt...lets just say it didn't work out.
Anonymous523336
And House Of The Dead: Overkill is probably the best game in the franchise to adapt, i mean, it has Isaac Washington in it and dude's awesome.
Anonymous523336
None of those games have much of a story, but at least House Of The Dead could make for an entertaining silly movie, i mean House Of The Dead: Overkill is freaking awesome and has silly cutscenes at the start and end of every level.
Kaiser Eoghan
At most moonbeam city seems sylistically interesting.
Kaiser Eoghan
Archer I simply lost track of and it ended up getting to long to catch up on it.
Kaiser Eoghan
Relatively old news, although I've been joking with friends about what if scenarios for a streets of rage film. I know there is a cg/live action hybrid sonic film in the works. I kind of want to think a shinobi or streets of rage film could work if they went full on 70s style action film.
AidanAK47
None of these games are played for the story. You would be better off just making a new game for them instead of a movie.
AidanAK47
I haven't even seen Archer. On another note SEGA is planning a bunch of live action movies of their franchises and boy do they all sound like a horrible idea. Shinobi, Golden Axe, Virtua Fighter, The House of the Dead, Crazy Taxi, Streets of rage and Altered Beast.
SuperMario
@Anon522497: hmm, I found Moonbeam City underwhelmed and for Archer up until their last season I actually got a bit tired of the cast (couldn't finish that season 7)
Anonymous522497
If i wanted Archer i would just watch Archer or Moonbeam City like everyone else.
Anonymous522338
Bloodivores
SuperMario
Anyone here watching Pacific Heat? It's an Aussie Archer-ripoff aired in Netflix last week. I actually enjoyed the 1st episode, not that great but everyone panned it like a plague.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Who?
Anonymous521123
#StephanieJaworowiczIsBeautiful
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: That'd be the compiliation film. I watched that based on hearing that the film version trimmed back on the shows weaker moments.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: was it the compilation film or the series itself? That scene is the highlight of that first season. I'm always a fan of KyoAni so it's very natural that I enjoy this series a whole lot.
Kaiser Eoghan
I watched the first season of sound euphonium, not much to say for it other than I liked the teacher guy and the scene where the black haired girl tells the main character that she thinks shes hiding behind a mask. Animation was as expected of kyoani good. All of those emotion shots though and some of the melodrama...
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, it does stop if you make an account.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hmmm there we go again, it delayed sending my message for longer than it should have.
Kaiser Eoghan
Anyone notice today and last night that the site has had some loading issues? I kept getting an error page for a while and it was also loading a bit more slowly. A server issue?
Lenlo
Have to say, Flip Flappers ep 5 was pretty good. I love atmospheric settings like that.
Lenlo
Looks like an Epee. The large bell guard, the fact that they are focusing on thrusting attacks instead of slashing (mostly). Fencing is alot of fun. Be prepared for some bruises though, as some people put their full body weight behind their thrusts.
SuperMario
I have one last dumb question, Can you tell what types of blade of Juri in Utena? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGsVSSUv_i0
SuperMario
@Lenlo: the more you described the more I found fencing interesting. I might take a look around my town to see if we have Fencing here (the curse of living in a small town).
Lenlo
Blades are slightly different, yes, but mostly just in their guard and how much they bend. Sabers bend easily, Epee's not so much. Surprisingly Epee is the slowest, because people tend to be more careful. Saber is actually the most aggressive of the blades, atleast at my skill level
AidanAK47
That's all they had to do. Just stay inside and let it pass. But for some weird reason they just keep panicking over nothing.
As far as time/alternate world stuff goes this was ridiculously underwhelming. Just finished another movie called triangle and now that's how you do Time travel mindfuckery.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I am not fond of movies where people make stupid decisions for no good reason. For example:
"We should just stay inside"
"No, staying inside isn't realistic"
WHY IN THE HOLY HELL ISN'T IT REALISTIC.
SuperMario
Showed that movie to a bunch of friends last year and I remembered one of the girl just shut off the movie after 15'
SuperMario
@Aidan: too bad. I found Cohenrent really funny and entertaining. Some of their twists are stupid but I was actually invested in much of their characters. Maybe because I always love movies about a bunch of characters in an isolated setting
SuperMario
@Lenlo: sounds like Epee is the most "all-out-attack" and aggressive one. Their blades are different as well I assume?
AidanAK47
Just watched a movie called coherence and man, what a bunch a pseudo-intellectual garbage that was.
Lenlo
For Right of Way, its basically Person A attacks, Person B parries, Person A hits, Person B hits, Person B gets the point because they took right of way with the parry. Saber and Foil both have that, but Epee does not. Epee is simply "Whoever hits the opponent first, doesnt matter where, whole body is target area"
Lenlo
Theres Saber, Foil and Epee. The main difference is this thing called right of way, but there are other smaller ones like how Saber can hit with the edge and Epee is allowed to hit the entire body, instead of just the chest like Foil
SuperMario
For news, Blood Blockade Battlefront getting second season next year. As it was one of my favorite last year I'm really lokking forward to this second season
SuperMario
@Lenlo: that sounds great. From what I know from fencing there are 3 different types of blade right? So what are the differences between them? (Fencing 101 here)
Kaiser Eoghan
Although a fantasy sports thing could also generate interest, such as combining sports together to create something totally new.
Lenlo
@SuperMario, Fencing was great. Favorite sport ever and it helped me stay in shape in College. I find Epee to be the best blade, mostly cause I fenced it, but its a very intense 3 minutes. Unlike sports like Soccer and such which is alot of sustained running, Fencing is 3 minutes of Dont-Stop-Moving then wait till next match. Gets really fun once you figure out your own style.
SuperMario
haha, I wouldn't mind either if each episode focus on a single sport/ character/ country. Or even the positive aspects like role models, sports inspirations and stuffs
Lenlo
That Olympic anime sounds great.
Kaiser Eoghan
And it would be a good excuse to have characters of multiple backgrounds included too.
Kaiser Eoghan
Could be an 13 episode ova series with 48 minute episodes, and if its to be an ensemble character drama you could have 10 minutes to a each character (the ones being focused on in that episode) in each episode.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah yes, aswell as cheating it could also get into "stage parenting", "abuse", "Disabilities" and also the general politics of sports, the backroom stuff.
SuperMario
I'll be the first in line if that olympic anime ever come out. Could be interesting to see the interactions between athletes in different sports, and then fans/athletes/coaches relationship, then the gold rush, doping... So much to talk around to
Kaiser Eoghan
I don't think theres ever been a manga about hurling either. Hey heres an idea, someone do an ensemble drama anime that deals with the olympics, fit in multiple sports that way.
SuperMario
Personally I find Australian football much more exciting than rugby. Or crickets.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: ha! Interesting that you mentioned Gaelic football, because in Aus we have AFL (Australian Football League), that really similars to Gealic Football to the point sometimes we have the 2 national teams compete each other with modified rules
Kaiser Eoghan
Hmm, lets see, sport under-represented in anime? Fencing, golf , Gaelic football, bowling, boat racing.
SuperMario
Hey, fencing is actually really cool. How did you like it Lenlo?
SuperMario
You have your point there Topgavin, as I clearly remember many instances where players' legs, backs or even necks got snapped during rugby's tackles. But in regards to Rugby I never really care about it. That and car racing
Lenlo
Its mostly the type of injuries you get that differ I think. Football you get concussions and broken bones and such, while in Rugby you probably get alot of bruises and cuts. Granted I have played neither, I was a Soccer man in highschool and fencing in College
Lenlo
American football has alot of rules, and really is just a bunch of millionaires running around chasing a ball. Rugby however, as Topgavin said, has no pads so when you get hit you get hit HARD
AidanAK47
I never ceases to surprise me just how high and mighty visual novel fans can be over Mosaics present in localized games. I mean they are literally complaining about not seeing genitalia yet the way they phrase it, it's like they are fighting against great injustice. If these VNs were Nukige they might have a point but in most cases the sex scenes in question are pointless and shoehorned in.
Topgavin
@Mario Rugby is more extreme *because* it has no protective gear. No hiding behind helmets and cushioned shoulder pads when ya get bowled over.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm no expert but isn't American football a variation of Rugby? And I believe american football is more extreme, considering they have to wear helmets, protection gears and all that
Lenlo
I dont think theres alot of manga about it because its simply not that popular outside the US. As far as it being a battlefield, eeeeh? Not really? You want a battlefield watch Rugby.
SuperMario
I can think of other cool sports that could be interesting to see in anime: Kick Volleyball (Sepak takraw), Bossaball (combined soccer, volleyball in a trampoline), or in the same vein of skate figures this season, why not pole dancing competition???
Anonymous504493
What other sport is cool and popular that remains original to write about by now? There isn't a lot of manga about it compared to anything else.
Anonymous504493
American football looks like a battlefield with a visible battleline and everything. Id like it if there wasnt so many darn commercials.
Lenlo
I mean, its a sport. Far cry from best, but its definitely a sport.
SuperMario
@Vonter: or maybe because american football IS the best sports ever?
Kaiser Eoghan
@Vonter: Most likely due to the middle section of the original anime being the most popular bit.
Vonter
Can someone explain me how Cobra, is apparently getting an anime around some sort of space american football? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54kNWPr43zE
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Its not safe enough a film for me to properly recommend. Even to exploitation fans, they might find it too slow others would be too sensitive to it. Really una vita violenca, mamma roma, accatone, hawks and sparrows are what Pasolini is really about.
SuperMario
Now that you watched Salo, would you recommend the film to other people? I personally think it's a masterpiece but it's one of the title that I think people would break up with me if I show them this movie
SuperMario
@Kaiser: even him as a director, both Braveheart and Apocalypto don't do much to me, will see if Hacksaw Ridge going to change my mind (but I'm not to fond with war movies in general). La Notte is in my sooon-to-watch list for years, haha
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